Biological Badlands...Mafia #8

[ZSandmann]

The BEs had a resurrection vial and there is Ice.

 

[ZSandmann]

4 ladies and jl is a heck of a lot better than 50% that's 80%.

johnlarson is the new Bosely.

</Charlie's Angels>

 

[jpappy789]

Welcome back Ice!!!

DD obviously 100%

Was flip flopping with lg...now 100%

Jl does make a good candidate for Dr. Gene...

guppy is next suspect

I vote to lynch Johnlarson

I can't wait to see his reaction!

Ice's plan is nice but risky. We cannot commit to it just yet, but I like the way it ends!

 

[jpappy789]

Uh duh...lynch? Where is my head?

I vote to test jl

 

[Swayde]

I sure do hope you are right about JL, Ice. I vote to genetically test Johnlarson.

 

[jpappy789]

I sure do hope you are right about JL, Ice. I vote to genetically test Johnlarson.

A be just named you as suspect...how do you plead?

 

[ZSandmann]

I want to see DD's and Lady's reaction. Sure to be a mafia game classic. Nothing like being outted by a zombie.

 

[Swayde]

A be just named you as suspect...how do you plead?

He suspects me, but he's wrong, just as he was wrong about KoTD and just like I was wrong about him.

 

[IceH2O]

I am stunned. I'm not very surprised about KoTD, I had a feeling he was innocent, but that vote for himself sure did look really bad, but Ice being good, and a bio engineer??!!! Ice, seriously man, I am totally shocked. I really believed you were a bad guy. I am very sorry for not trusting you.

Guys we have REALLY got to rally together now. We cannot afford to make any more mistakes =/ Not only did we test a good person, but lost 2 more, both engineers *cries*

You're not surprised because you know who is innocent, I believe only 1 thing in this post, that you didn't know I was a bio engineer.

WOW...we lost 2 of our Bio's in ONE night that is just plain CRAZY!!

WTH, we are down 5 townies now and not ONE evil are the immune this time around
I'm wondering Ewurm what happened to your GARANTEE we were going to get a evil tonight? Welcome back to my list...I was leaning more for you innocent until now, I should of kept my vote on you night 1!

Guppy, you are definatly back on top of my list now more than ever, what did RB do make all the newbs evil just to throw us all ( I know gup has played before..but not for the last 3 games). What a way to bring her back.

Jpap where have you been?? You haven't been posting much lately?

My biggest suspects right now...

Guppy
Ewurm
HN-you were on Ice pretty hard for a while.
DD
Jp??

2 evils on this list, trying to distance

if I'm not mistaken HN, you were also into Ice's moves as he put it, Why wouldn't you be looked at? Also, you were all over King's back as well... ?

Yes, my intuition was incorrect on Ice and I totally take responsibility for that but it was a mistake. I thought for sure he goofed up as he had the last game. I thought that he was digging at me because I was so on to him about it and he was scrambling. He has no foundation to be on me but as a guess. His guess is soooo off base. We cannot afford to lose another with normal genetics. My thoughts are to look into those who haven't been active. That's how I played when I was mafia, I just kept quiet and let everyone else do the work which leads me to question the whereabouts of pappy, wurm, guppy, Z. I'm interested in their thoughts. My guess is if they start talking, they will start leaking.

Wrong you were investigated!

Given what's happened and the fact that I've been wrong about two people thus far... I'm gonna go ahead and throw out my thoughts and suspicions (and my vote).

First of all... I vote to genetcally test Lady G.

My other suspects-

Jpappy- playing way too differently this game and has been under my radar.
Nmrsco- Seems to have been coached.
Ewurm- See above.
Zsandmann- May be the coach here.

A few things strike me. Z has defended the newbs when their play style changed on a dime. There is a definite history of newbie players being cast as mafia (Evil). JL and Jpappy have seemed to reverse their play styles and I believe strongly that one of them is guilty while the other is innocent. Thoughts anyone?

Forget all those names HN the post will tell you who is what.

These are the only post thus far from gup...doesn't seem the the postings of a innocent to me...first comes in to state had an emergancy, (these things do happen..hope it all came out ok)..then posts about kotd, no vote just mentions him. then doesn't vote at all...don't show back up until after nightfall and say's "I need to get a vote in", then gtg?? Now maybe it's just me but you would think she would at least put some thoughts up or something!

I VOTE TO GENETICALLY TEST GUPPY!!!

I will not change this time..unless something happens to change my mind about her...I have a few ppl in mind but she just makes me feel "evil" more than any.

The sacrificial lamb is being lead to the slaughterhouse.

Z is definitely much quieter than normal and seems to be playing differently from past games, slightly bad feeling about him there but no major alarm bells. Not sure about Jpappy, I've never been able to get a good read on him and I can't determine if he's good or bad this time either. Nmrsco I've felt was guilty since day one and I still think Ewurm may actually be good and I'd replace his name with Guppy especially until a really good explanation is heard about her where abouts and why she popped in so late, said she'd be voting and then say gtg. I'm not sure about Lady G, she seems awfully flustered and defensive, but so did Mee-Mee and KoTD and I just don't feel strongly enough about her.

Trying to use past failures against us. LADY G was INVESTIGATED and found evil

I have no clue how I am one of your top suspects. A suspect, I can see, but a top suspect, listed first?

I have Hooked Newbie and ewurm and plantling all pretty high.

I am going to review the posts made by Ice, DC, and KOTD. As far as which one comes back, all three are welcome.

If the Bio-Engineer powers are not granted back, then I am leaning KOTD, but it is the lone choice of the lone Bio-Engineer. If the town does not test him first.

Also, someone says that I and someone else are playing differently. I will find that post. I am not playing any different than I have any other game. Yes, I have been a bad guy before and yes, I have been a good guy. Either way I play the same.

Never put any of them on my list

ewurm, it is okay to read all of the posts and not just the ones by Hooked Newbie.

The lab-tech killed one of the people voting for DangerDoll.

She could not kill them both. Now maybe they did investigate her, but how come the third one did not vote for her and how come there was no real push for her. The three of them can talk outside of the thread. I think they would have been more vocal if she came back as evil.

If we bring back one of them, maybe they can tell us who they investigated. I do not see how it could cause harm.

My thoughts of bringing KOTD have changed, it would be better to bring back one of the Bio-Engineers.

We would have to be totally stupid to all pile on 1 player, would the evils do that?

I agree with this.

I think they should tell us who was investigated. I think voting before we hear from them is premature.

My guess is they found someone that was good and it will help clear someone.

I think if they found an evil, all three would have voted the same.

Brings it up a 2nd time.

What?!?!?! why is all the suspicion on me?? We cannot afford to lose another Townie! Simply because 2 Bio's were suspicious of me isn't good enough. If they had investigated me, you and them would have seen that I was clearly innocent. The proof of this is because the third Bio hasn't picked on me. Neither of you who are voting me are bio's and is proven by your votes.

DC picked me out because he wasn't so warm with my resoonse and Ice had me on his list from the get go. Do you really think that the evils would select take out Ice and DC with Ice being so relentlously on me? I would think they would be a little more incognito than that.

My thoughts are still on those quiet ones and Guppy was notorious in her posts last night. Did you all miss that??

The evils didn't take out DC and yes you would take me out. Remember DD has been found EVIL

I am placing my vote on Guppy because of her highly suspicious pattern late last night.

I vote to Genetically test GuppyGuppyFish

I also think that some attention needs to be focused on those that are voting for me.

2nd one to help lead the sacrificial lamb to slaughter

Thanks to you all. We didn't get any wind damage so thank goodness for that. Your kindness makes the next few posts difficult, but this is a game, and I must save my town.



What I wanted to say on this post was that it would be stupid to put all three BE's on a suspect as that pretty much outs them.

Two IMO was a bad idea but I don't know what their plan is/was so I can't judge. Two BE's on a suspect is strong enough evidence to get my vote, but I will wait for the third BE to use their vial before I vote.

I agree but look below

I agree with this. That is why I am an not conviced they had found an evil. I think once one is brought back to life we will have more information.

then contradicts himself in the very next sentence (underlined)

ummm.... what? I wasn't quoted on anything???


a doozy, huh?

and here is the "doozy".
I am assuming you mean 863?? I didn't post 603, nor was I in a quote there.
So, Z, are you using the storm for a screen?

Who didn't know there was a storm in the gulf?

Guess DD has been spending to much time in meetings online.

DD...Hid in the Bushes says Hello?

For those missing the last statement I caught DD online she answered my IM.

This is the post I referred to as a "doozy." First of all thanks to all of you, and I'm glad you are all on right now.

RB likes to drop subtle hints. Some are more out there than others, IE the Snitch List dialog several games ago. Other times it is much more hidden. In the previous game some player roles may have hinted at Power Roles. Charlie the hairdresser for example. Also, there was the New and Old Mafia, that turned out to be pretty much just that. So I've been trying my best to look for some pattern since Day 1, and I found one!!!

When Mee-Mee was voted out, I felt it was because of a bias of her play last game. I thought about the male/female ratio and how males greatly outnumber females in this game. Now look at the list of Innocents killed so far this game. All male except MM. Not to mention there are exactly five females left and five Evils. Yes I am saying I BELIEVE RB CREATED AN ALL FEMALE EVIL TEAM!!! :jaw-dropping:

One last thought. The Dr. is named Dr. Gene E. Netics. Gene is pretty androgynous, and if you take Gene E. = Jennie or Genny that's pretty feminine. So I present a suspect list that does need further evidence but seems to stand a fair chance.

Swayde
Lady G
Dangerdoll
guppyguppyfish
plantling

Question, who is the Dr?

John Larson is the DR
Drop plantling

Well if we are going about wild theories here (Z)...how about the fact there are only 6 males left...and Gene IS a males name, My Great Uncle just passed away 2 day's ago guess what his name was GENE!!! I can't believe I didn't think of that, if we are going to go on the Dr's name then I would have to say it is a male dominant or all male team. Let's see here:

Z-I was leaning you innocent until that post (very sexist btw), I highly doubt RB would of been that way.
Ewurm-Well we all know I think he is evil
Nmrsco-has been very suspicious to me
HN-Voted Cs day one (who was "conveniently" hit that night) and innocent then voted Dc day two another innocent (BE), was all over ice innocent(BE)
Jpap-Didn't notice until pointed out by swayde..but following you around, voted Ewurm which I believe to be evil but could be distancing.
That would leave just one male BKW-which really I don't think to be evil.

Hmmmm, very interesting there!

Lady G left Bkw off the 1st list but leaves JL off the all male list.hmmm

This is a DOOZY.

I think that if rbishop would have done this then mee-mee would have been either evil or a power role. If mee-would have been found as something at all, I would go along with this.

I think there is a large possiblity that one of these women is the last Bio-Engineer and a few of them are Evil Scientist.

I do not agree with ZSandmann's idea at all.

On a side note, I always forget Swayde is a she.

Why MM and not plantling? Either way the theory is wrong because the DR is GENE Male

So you're saying the Angels of Death have an Evil-Bosley?

Plantling would be the one I'd drop if I were to interchange one female for a male. Not sure who I'd pick as the male. Either ewurm or jpappy i suppose.

But the mee-mee thing I see as this. If RB picked the teams this game instead of random, then he would have to exclude one female based on the number of sign ups and the desire to have five Evils. Since Mee-Mee had just been an evil, and did a poor job of it, sorry MM, then she would be the one I'd exclude. I'm ready ready to give up on this theory. I think Guppy or DD will probably be who I vote for Tonight. But I'm waiting to see what the BEs can help us with. I hope that happens soon really. I suppose we won't know till RB gets online and gets the PM, assuming they sent it in already. Remember BE, it must be done BEFORE the next Night.

Exactly Zsand, its an evil Charlies Angels starring

JL
DD
LG
Sway
and Guppy

I vote to geneticaly test dd
i think she is suspicious because she used my late arrival to cover-up the suspicions about her.

So which of the 4 told you to place the vote guppy? Tells us and I'll make sure they use the serum on you and not have you killed.


Now guys JL hasn't been investigated, I also had Bkw on my suspect list for DR. You guys can risk it or we can investigate JL. I ask that the lab worker NOT use the potion on JL or Bkw and stick to the plan in the 1st post I made after being raised.

Just sitting back and having time to actually run through the posts with no pressure to post made this much easier. I'd put money on that list.

I'll be around so I'll answer any questions.

 

[ZSandmann]

Ok... I've had time to absorb this massive data dump.

DangerDoll: EVIL!!!
Lady G: EVIL!!!

The BE's other suspects:
johnlarson66 - Dr. Gene
Swayde
Guppyguppyfish

As you can see I will fully support this plan. It has a lot of guts to it but offers fast reward for us. I only worry about the choice to test an unknown Tonight. I have had suspicions of jl but not like ewurm and maybe some others. I actually found pappy much more suspicious and I'd like to hear Ice give us a run down of thoughts on each player, myself included. Since we know two sure Evils, would like be maybe a little more conservative but slightly safer to Test one of them and use a Lab Worker Vial on the other one? The Lab Worker doesn't control what his vial does, he could send the suspect into babble and cause no real benefit to the Town. Worst case scenario, jl is Innocent, we Test him, the Lab Worker makes DD babble, and Lady G and DD live another day. Of course we will have another investigation then but Ice will be gone for sure and who would tell us the result?