If he is that stressed he might be better off where he is than trying to move him at this point (unless of course, you think the stress might be from getting picked on)
Blue Ram panting...Is this Ich!??!
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Thanks for the replies people, but he died over night 
What a quick turnover from being fine...He was so nice, he'd have been perfect when he got fully grown.
What a quick turnover from being fine...He was so nice, he'd have been perfect when he got fully grown.
No faster way to kill a blue ram than this strategy.
Change the water daily. What is the temp of the tank? If its not at 83-4, bump it up there.
Rams normally have that open/close mouth action which looks like panting. If he has lost color and if his fins are being held close to his body however, it is a sign that all is not well. If you have seen any flashing/flicking or scratching, it could be a sign of gill flukes. Prazi Pro will work fine with blue rams, it is gentle.
If no signs of scratching/itching, then my guess is that it is something internal and unless he throws it off himself he's a gonner. It is very hard to save a strore bought ram, by the time they show symptoms of anything its too late. If you are desperate to try something because the daily water changes haven't perked him back up, you might try flubendazole. (It kills internal protazoa and treats chronic wasting type diseases...) Here is a link to a site where you can snail mail order it...
http://inkmkr.com/Fish/
The other option is feeding metronidazole laced food. Metro+ by hikari can be dissolved in a bit of warm water and their food can be soaked in it. This is a good option when you don't want to treat the whole tank. It is also safe for rams and is for internal parasites. It has some antibiotic action. It doesn't dissolve well in the tank... you have to get it into them via food. Feed 3 times a day for 5 days.
Hope all this helps,
Cathy
PS Fungus is a mold and it preys on damaged/dead tissues. It is fuzzy like a patch of white lawn. Those little white spotty things aren't fungus...they are probably some sort of bacteria and those types of little infections are quickly and easily thrown off by the fish's own immune system. Hence, change a bunch of your water...and get rid of the level of pathogens the fish is subjected to.
Here is my Blue Ram (approx. 5-6 months old). I got him from the LFS for free b/c they were going to euthanize him. This was 2 months ago. I brought him home and treated for Ich...nothing, then fungus...nothing. I did both Salt (salt baths) and then Malachite green medication after that didn't work.
After keeping him in the 75G alone w/ my other one (was over a month), I decided to add more fish. As you can see (these pictures were taken 2 days ago), he still has these solid white clumps on his fins. They have neither grown nor reduced in size. I thought of Ich, Fungus and Collyflower, but I have no idea...?
All my other fish are completely disease free and I have never had a prob with any fish *knock on wood*:duh:
This fish is very active, and in fact he is the "King of the Tank" truth be know. He even bullies my 2 angels ... not for long though ! :Angel:
Anyways, I have no clue what this is, and when I got them from the LFS I feared the worse...now I have NO clue :huh:
P.S.
He's pooping BTW
EDIT:
I test my water daily (becasue I'm afraid and over cautious):
Ammonia 0.0
Ites 0.0
Ates 0.5-10
50-60% WCs weekly (w/ heavy Vacs)
pH a constant 7.2
Temp 82-83
After keeping him in the 75G alone w/ my other one (was over a month), I decided to add more fish. As you can see (these pictures were taken 2 days ago), he still has these solid white clumps on his fins. They have neither grown nor reduced in size. I thought of Ich, Fungus and Collyflower, but I have no idea...?
All my other fish are completely disease free and I have never had a prob with any fish *knock on wood*:duh:
This fish is very active, and in fact he is the "King of the Tank" truth be know. He even bullies my 2 angels ... not for long though ! :Angel:
Anyways, I have no clue what this is, and when I got them from the LFS I feared the worse...now I have NO clue :huh:
P.S.
He's pooping BTW
EDIT:
I test my water daily (becasue I'm afraid and over cautious):
Ammonia 0.0
Ites 0.0
Ates 0.5-10
50-60% WCs weekly (w/ heavy Vacs)
pH a constant 7.2
Temp 82-83
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