Blueberry Oscar

Yeah!!! Great Ideah...We should make the stores return our clothes and shoes when we grow out of them too!!!
C'mon people! Why don't you use the same computer you use to spew babble to do a little research on what you buy!

this is not something new, it's already the law in Hawaii to prevent introduction of non-native species to their waterways. Used throughout the US, it would decrease the number of places that sell tankbusters and it would decrease the number sold. It will also motivate sellers to be honest and knowledgeable about the fish they sell, rather than just lying outright or being misleading in order to make money. Buyers would still have to responsible in researching the fish's needs and care. Don't think of it as returning clothes when they don't fit - think of it as a Lemon Law for fish.

I don't think enforcement would be a problem. say you are new to the hobby, believe in the old standards "inch per gallon, fish only grow to the size of their tanks, etc" and go to Fish-A-Million and the guy there tells you that the shiny little 2" pacu only gets 8 inches long. well, you love the fish and you take it home. little pacu gets sick, and you search for help online. you find aquaria central, and the nice people there tell you that pacus reach 24+ inches long. now you know you've been lied to. you try to return the fish and fish-a-million won't take it. you call up whatever department is assigned to this area, they look into it, and fish-a-million gets fined or forced to stop selling pacus.

i really don't think people in general are as 'enlightened' about fish as we are, and NONE of us were born that way. we all had to start learning somewhere, and i think for a lot of us it starts when we have our first problems/mistakes.

i didn't know anything when i set up my first fishtanks. in fact, i had 3 of them before i even found AC. i first found this place because i bought a goldfish for a 6g tank. i wanted it to poop a whole lot and 'fertilize' the water so i could return it and grow cool plants. when it got a swimbladder problem i went online to search for help. that's when i learned about everything - goldfish do not stay so small, cycling tanks, water changes, inch per gallon myth, plants need more than goldfish poop, etc. heck, i had a 10g guppy tank for 6 months and before i found AC i would just break it down and rinse everything completely every couple of months. i never did a water change, just topped off the evaporation. when i stirred up the gravel, that water turned black.

so, how could i have three fishtanks, and yet NO ONE in the stores ever told me about any of the stuff i found online? when you are new, you can't know there is more to it. you can't know that you can't always trust the people at the store. i mean, if all you have seen and heard about is basic math (add, subtract, multiply, divide) you're never going to even know there's such a thing as calculus or even algebra unless someone tells you about it, or something forces you to search for higher answers. it's not that people are too stupid to do research, it's that they are unconscious to the idea that research would even have to be done. when you are new and don't have any experience, you trust the people at the store to help you out.
 
iim upset because i ordered a green tiger oscar and was sold a "rare" blue oscar for the same price. maybe i should have looked up first but hey if it was rare i wanted it. i was either lied too or maybe hes less informed than i...wich usually is the case. im not returning the because hes doing fine and i like him
 
Yes, if we could only get more people to do the research. I have friends around here that are starting to keep fish, after seeing my tanks. They come and ask questions all the time. If I don't know the answer, we get online and find out. They don't have the luxury of a computer. I'm just glad these local youngsters are learning the proper way to keep fish and are passing on the knowledge.
 
I agree that we all started somewhere. I have made some dumb mistakes in the past and I try my hardest to educate my customers. When Glofish came in I researched them for my customers. I have to say where I work they don't have any dyed fish and it is our policy not to carry any of them. I play the 20 questions and many times when people get the facts they opt out of the 36" iridescent shark. Let me tell you there are so many people out there that just don't care. People don't put a value on fish lives as they would a dog or a cat. I had a person tell me that they didn't care that they where putting in too many fish into a tank all at once that it was only money and that it was only fish. The people on here are trying to do the right thing by researching but where I'm at 8 out of 10 people are not informed consumers. So it really is both the LFS and the consumers responsibility. I usually know when someone is uneducated about the hobby. I have sent people away and told them to think about wheather they really want to settle with a 29 gal or wait until they have enough money or the room for the bigger tank that they really want. I also have a list of websites for them to research before they make purchases. I have found by doing this, that I have people that will only come to me for their problems.
 
Since getting involved with cichlids I've done quite a bit of research on my own. Along the way I've asked store owners basic questions to get their advice and input. In the beginning I probably listened to them too much. Now in too many cases, either they're poorly educated or I've caught them in lies. But that's not everyone. I've also had some stores point out that a fish will change color as it ages or might be too aggressive for my tank (two different stores). I can tell you I'm more likely to go back to the store that shows me respect and appreciation than I am the one that lies to me.

How many people do you think have been tempted by the fish keeping hobby only to get out of it early because of a bad experience? I bet a lot! In most cases they likely didn't realize how complicated it would be and received no warnings or advice from the seller. That's someone the store could have kept coming back for more with responsible direction, but instead they sold them an oscar that quickly outgrew their 10 gallon tank. Now that consumer wants nothing more to do with the hobby.

Many of you say it's on the buyer, but do you go out of your way to research everything you buy? Like it or not we all know for some getting into this hobby is an impulse decision. As the seller if you want to keep someone interested you better think of the future and not just that one sale. If you want to keep your store open you better make sure that your customers are satisfied with their decision. That seems obvious to me.
 
To many LFS are only out to make the sale and don't look at it that if they educate the customer that the won't have just a sale but a loyal customer.
 
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