buying a new filter ! opinions please !

Originally posted by Heady
famman, where did you find an Eheim 2213 for $50?? I just bought mine from BigAl's and used their low price guarantee to bring the cost down to $64.55 US.

That's not bad, Heady! You drive a hard bargain! That Pet Place has them listed at about $75!

Back to the topic of the thread...

SBee, my normal proclivity is to overfilter. I have an overstocked 75 that has an Emperor 400, a prefiltered Eheim 2028 (with dummy canister filled with ceramic noodles on the outlet), and a prefiltered HOT Magnum with biowheel. That tank has a lot more than a dozen fish, though...

I wouldn't run any larger tank with only a single filter. If that filter cashes out, you're in trouble. (That always happens when you're on vacation, too!) Small mbuna become large mbuna pretty quickly, and even when small, they're much messier than most other fish.

In a tank like the one you describe, I'd want to separate mechanical and biological filtration. I'd get a canister (I like Eheims) and load it with some non-clogging, permanent media like bioballs or, even better, ceramic noodles like Ehfimech. I'd prefilter it with a sponge to help keep crud out of the can. I'd the get an easy-to-clean mechanical filter. I prefer HOT Magnums with a sponge prefilter; internal canisters, esp. Eheims, are nice, too. (RTR has a very good article on this at http://www.tomgriffin.com/aquamag/cannister.html.)

Cichlids are much messier than most other fish, so the slight extra expense of a second, mech-only filter is truly worth it.

You can go nuts and get more filters (it works for me!), but two should be enough for a dozen mbuna in a 75.

HTH,
Jim
 
thanks for all the replies. I didn't expect this to become a debate about overfiltration....! In my first post I said I was looking for an opinion on which ONE filter I should get....and have since repeatedly posted my budget restrictions!!!!
Nevertheless, appreciate the info. I think we've decided to go with one filstar xp3, and I'll leave one of my ac 150's running, and one of my powerheads as well. My next question is.....how the heck do you guys manage to get your filters so cheap!!

Like I've said, the xp3 is 259.99 CAD at Big Al's. At Petsmart, it goes for 200 even. So I know I can get that at Big Al's too, minus 5%. Still though, even with exchange, it seems like you guys still have cheaper filters. Is there anywhere else I can look????

oh, and Heady---nope I don't think Big Al's sells fish online at all...not in Canada either.....
 
Originally posted by Heady

BTW, am I just missing it where BigAl's sells fish online? Or do they sell fish only to Canada not to the States?

They only sell fish out of their retail outlets across Canada.
 
Oh, OK. I haven't seen any outlets here in the US.

SBee, before you buy from your local Petsmart, you might try Petsmart.com. They often have items MUCH cheaper than in-store. Also you might try:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/sub.cfm?siteid=6&pcatid=3579

Some of their items are much cheaper than the lfs but not as cheap as US BigAl's.

Once you decide exactly what filter you want, do a search for it on the net. BigAl's will beat any competing online price by 5%.
 
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Thanks Heady.
I wasn't planning on buying anything from petsmart anyways because I like to rack up my points on my Big Al's VIP card!! :) I sure found it surprising though that there was a 60 dollar difference in price between the two stores. That's just insane.

I've done some online searches as well....thanks for the tip...
I'm pretty sure though that Big Al's here (we go to the actual locations, rather than order online) will only do their 5% thingy with Canadian list prices.....just my guess.....
 
oh---and another question.......I know that Fluval's come with filter media...........and on one site it said that Filstar's DID too....but I thought I heard somewhere else that they DIDN'T. Anyone know for certain?
 
Filstar!

This is the only 'sanely' priced canister for the $$ ! Seriously. XP-3.....
 
just bought the xp3!! got it for 190........

going to set 'er up now......yeeeeeeehaw!!!


the guy at Big Al's nearly crapped himself when we told him that Petsmart had the filter for 60 dollars cheaper :)
 
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