calling all chemists and fish gurus!

between the two water sources, based on the typed readings, i would use the city water. it looks like the ph need to be adjusted either way right? use vineger or baking soda. if I had to choose between ammonia or nitrate i choose nitrate being that it's the end product and is less toxic. or just avoid all the waste and additives in source and get a water filtration unit.
 
abraham said:
Well, After some googleing this morning, I found that chlorimine removers only remove the chlorine from the chlorimine and leave the ammonia. That puts me right were I am with the well water! I'm going to slowly start using it and see what happens. Unless there are any other words of wisdom out there for me. Wish me luck!
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One thing about using Google or Yahoo! You have to know which is bunk and which is right to find the answer :)

They don't leave the ammonia. It's bound into an ionized form that is harmless to the fish, but can still be used by your bacteria. Here:

http://www.seachem.com/support/FAQs/Prime_faq.html

There's some words of wisdom from SeaChem. Great company, IMO.

Go for the well water!

Roan
 
From the description of the fish deaths, it sounds to me like it could me an osmolality problem. IME your introduction acclamation process is too short, could be a combo thing.

I think the well water is safer, did we get a look at the gh kh yet?

Use Prime water treatment and forget those worries (ammonia bonds etc.)

Jay
 
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Jay said:
From the description of the fish deaths, it sounds to me like it could me an osmolality problem. IME your introduction acclamation process is too short, could be a combo thing.

I think the well water is safer, did we get a look at the gh kh yet?

Use Prime water treatment and forget those worries (ammonia bonds etc.)

Jay
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Exactly what I was thinking, Jay. That's why I wanted him to grab a GH/KH kit. It'll give us a general idea of the TDS in the tank.

Roan
 
somuchtolearn said:
between the two water sources, based on the typed readings, i would use the city water. it looks like the ph need to be adjusted either way right? use vineger or baking soda. if I had to choose between ammonia or nitrate i choose nitrate being that it's the end product and is less toxic. or just avoid all the waste and additives in source and get a water filtration unit.
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Actually, no, the pH does not need to be adjusted and doing so can cause instability in the tank. IMO and IME you should never futz long-term with your pH with chemicals.

Roan
 
Roan Art said:
One thing about using Google or Yahoo! You have to know which is bunk and which is right to find the answer :)

They don't leave the ammonia. It's bound into an ionized form that is harmless to the fish, but can still be used by your bacteria. Here:

http://www.seachem.com/support/FAQs/Prime_faq.html

There's some words of wisdom from SeaChem. Great company, IMO.

Go for the well water!

Roan
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This is what I was understanding also as far as leaving the ammonia. I just didn't realize that it was not harmful to fish in that form.

Abraham
 
abraham said:
This is what I was understanding also as far as leaving the ammonia. I just didn't realize that it was not harmful to fish in that form.
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It's not, so dive in :)

Roan
 
Jay said:
"Futz"

I vote that we make this an all time rule at aquariacentral. :)
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So long as people don't start rhyming it with "putz", I'm all for it.

On the other hand --

"Don't futz, you putz!" has a certain ring to it :D

Roan
 
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