can fantails and orandas be mixed? also do i have room for anymore goldfish?
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So sorry, AAF 
Don't give up on the goldies, though. You are right; they can be much more challenging than the average tropical. From your posts, it's really hard to tell what might have gone wrong. You might have been on to something with the silicone. Was it the GE without the antibacterial additive?
Don't give up on the goldies, though. You are right; they can be much more challenging than the average tropical. From your posts, it's really hard to tell what might have gone wrong. You might have been on to something with the silicone. Was it the GE without the antibacterial additive?
it was the walmart brand ge 2. someone said they used it on here to reseal their 110. how can i test to see if thats it? i have 3 minnows i could use as test dummies but if it was a disease then they would die either way and i wouldnt know why. i wont give up on goldfish. i wont get anymore until i know i wont lose any though. i plan on 1 ryukin, 1 fantail, and 1 oranda.
I did a Google search for "ge 2 aquarium" and came up with at least two forum threads saying that ge 2 (or ge II) silicone contains mold inhibitors that are harmful to fish.
Can you pull your fish into a different container with clean water as an emergency measure? It may not be the silicone (seems like sometimes it has it and sometimes it doesn't) but will all fish dying in quick succession, I would try to see if getting away from the silicone improves things.
And please don't use your minnows as test subjects. It's cruel.
Can you pull your fish into a different container with clean water as an emergency measure? It may not be the silicone (seems like sometimes it has it and sometimes it doesn't) but will all fish dying in quick succession, I would try to see if getting away from the silicone improves things.
And please don't use your minnows as test subjects. It's cruel.
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yes i can. should i use a bucket? i have a 10 gallon quarentine but corys were dieing in it so it might just get more sick.
Good golly. I feel for you AAF. As far as the tank goes, a bare bottom is good as a grow out location for hatchlings or fry. Nearly impossible though to keep maintained properly for larger goldfish once they're an inch or so in size. The decomposing food and waste will be kept in circulation and doesn't have anything to settle into --- which makes it easy to suck up with a python to remove it from an enclosed system. When all the muck swirls around all the time with the current and active, swimming, scavaging fish keeping it stirred up.... the solids tend to stay dissolved in the water itself. And that would largely flow right through filters and be reintroduced back into the water column.
You might be better off with at least an inch or so of sand or gravel. Something to think about anyways.
You might be better off with at least an inch or so of sand or gravel. Something to think about anyways.
I would use the tote. Rinse it well first. If you can run a new airstone and new airline into it that would be good. A filter that hasn't touched any tank with dying fish would be even better. Don't use any water from the suspect tanks - if you can acclimatize the fish in a third container, maybe a bucket, then good - but remember you're trying to eliminate the possibility of toxins that may have leached out into the water. So once you've done the acclimatization process, net him out and put him into completely clean water.
Then see how he does. If you haven't got a seeded filter, do daily water changes to make sure ammonia doesn't build up. Remove uneaten food immediately - if he doesn't eat within five minutes, take it out.
If you had fish dying in the quarantine tank, you should sterilize it before using it again. I would use dilute bleach, then rinse like crazy, then use extra dechlorinator. As an extra step, I like to let a suspect tank sit dry for at least a week, although honestly fresh 10% bleach kills nearly everything. I'd see if you can get your goldfish into the tote before doing all that; if it's the silicone, then you need to get him away from it ASAP.
Then see how he does. If you haven't got a seeded filter, do daily water changes to make sure ammonia doesn't build up. Remove uneaten food immediately - if he doesn't eat within five minutes, take it out.
If you had fish dying in the quarantine tank, you should sterilize it before using it again. I would use dilute bleach, then rinse like crazy, then use extra dechlorinator. As an extra step, I like to let a suspect tank sit dry for at least a week, although honestly fresh 10% bleach kills nearly everything. I'd see if you can get your goldfish into the tote before doing all that; if it's the silicone, then you need to get him away from it ASAP.
I'm pretty sure it's the GE I that is the "right one" to use-- at least that's what I have always used to seal my tanks with no bad results.
Please keep us posted as to how things work out. I feel very bad for you, AAF. Hang in there and use the tub-- they aren't pretty, but they will surely work in an emergency to get the job done. I have several that I keep for just such use.
Please keep us posted as to how things work out. I feel very bad for you, AAF. Hang in there and use the tub-- they aren't pretty, but they will surely work in an emergency to get the job done. I have several that I keep for just such use.
shes in there. its a miracle shes alive. still acting the same though. sideways on the bottom breathing heavily. she does move every now and then though. i add some fish protector into the water. is there anything i can go out and buy that might help? i hate seeing her like this and id do anything to keep her alive.
