Can i do this?

[Nolapete]

Prime takes 5ml to treat 50 gallons.
Given then average of 20 drops per ml for most common solutions, that's 100 drops.

TWC would require 6 drops per gallon. To treat 50 gallons it would take 300 drops (150 if it's just chlorine, but unlikely)

If it's chloramine treat then + whatever the drops per gallon of Ammo-Lock or Amquel to detoxify the ammonia.

Prime is clearly the better value comparing apples to apples.

 

[cichlidcichlid]

it does take out the chloramine and chlorine!

I have been using it for a year now!

Also with my tanks they all have a ton of bio media to keep up with the large fish mass in the tanks, so i don't have to treat for the amonia, except for cycling i swear i have never seen it even go passed anything but zero even after a 100% water change.

I just was getting down to half way now on the 16 ounce bottle and i need to buy more. So i was wondering if the prime is going to do more gallons of water than the tap water conditioner?

After you factor in the fact that prime is 10 something for 8.8 ounces vs. 32 ounce of tap water conditioner for the same price.

Seriously though the water goes in and out of my tanks so quickly that any of the extras wouldn't do me much good.

 

[cichlidcichlid]

To make it clear i only want the water to be safe for fish nothing else.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

I'm on the Prime bandwagon too. I like the one bottle thing and I KNOW it works.

 

[silentskream]

prime is a much better bargain.. and sometimes you can buy it in bulk.. like a gallon for $70

 

[DarkSoul]

The only problem is:

This tap water conditioner instantly neutralizes chlorine, which is toxic to fish. Either chlorine or chloramines will be present in water provided from public water supplies. This neutralizes only chlorine. Made in USA. Not FDA-approved. Use as little as one drop per gallon of water; one ounce for 587.5 gallons; one cup for 4,700 gallons.

Prime removes chlorine, chloramine, and detoxifies ammonia. Not the same thing.

It says use as little as 1 drop per gallon. Normal municipal water supplies treated with only chlorine would most likely need 2 or more in my opinion.

Lets not forget, it also detoxifies nitrite and nitrate.

prime is a much better bargain.. and sometimes you can buy it in bulk.. like a gallon for $70

WHERE??


To the OP:

when chloramine breaks down it leaves ammonia behind, if you are also spending money on am-quel, or other ammonia removing agents, are you really saving any money, as opposed to buying a single product that does it all? not to mention reducing the amount of overall crap you are having to add to your tanks water

500ml of prime treats 5000g of water.

I will never ever bother to even consider thinking about possibly spending potential money on any other water conditioner!

plus its only like $13 CAD from the guy I will be buying it from.... thats a helluva deal.

 

[jm1212]

chloramine is harder to remove than chlorine, and is showing up in more water. you need to remove both to have truly safe water

 

[cichlidcichlid]

It removes chloramine!

I want to know if prime does more per bottle after you factor in the price between the two.

 

[lucky777ca]

It wouldn't be fair to compare Prime and TWC since one (Prime) does something extra that TWC doesn't. TWC breaks it down (according to the above post made by FryingPan) and converts it to ammonia. Prime on the other hand, breaks down the chloramines, converting it to ammonia, and converts ammonia (NH3; a by-product in the detoxification of chloramine => Cl-NH2) into ammonium (NH4+), which is less toxic than ammonia and still usable by the bacteria in the nitrogen cycle.

Anyways, on the calculations... You say that a bottle of 8.8 oz of SeaChem's Prime costs almost the same as 32 oz of Aquarium Pharmaceutical's Tap Water Conditioner (TWC). According to Nolapete's calculation, it would take three times as much to neutralize the chloramines. Therefore, 8.8 oz of Prime would be equivalent to three bottles of TWC or 26.4 oz of the total 32 oz. Therefore, you save $1.75 for getting TWC over Prime or 17.5% off of the price by getting Prime. You would also need to buy another product which would detoxify the ammonia produced as a by-product just in order to compare and determine whether TWC + another product is less costly than just buying Prime...

The cost of saving is so minuscule that it really isn't worth it. I would rather get the Prime than the TWC stuff. But, that's just my opinion.

*** That took me a long time to write... I had to remove, add and research some things***

 

[J double R]

http://www.aquariumguys.com/prime2l.html

just an example.. if youre paying 70 bucks for the big bottle of Prime, youre getting ripped off.