Can salt treantment cause this?

I'm going to keep up with the salt and keep an eye on them.

thak you for researching, and for being resolute. :bowing: :bowing:

We so often see folks Who get scared due to the constant barrage of mis-information, and then they make quick judgements that generally hurt instead of help them. I learned a long time ago to question everything, but stick to my guns until I knew for a fact that something was wrong, and then change things in a careful and informed manner. So many people get scared and make mistake on top of mistake when working on new problems.
dave
 
And just for the record, I have never known anyone to report any problem with table salt beyond the problems that salt in general will cause. I use it when needed for treatment with no issue, as do and have many many other folks here and everywhere else. As My grandmother used to say "the proof is in the pudding", My fish are never exposed to anything I'm not sure of, and I'd rather have the food grade table salt than the who knows what it is Freshawater aquarium salt any day.
dave
 
That is a very interesting link, and should be read.
The one key factor with that disuccion is the fact that It seems the person in question is using the salt continually or long term. Any type of long term salt use has the potential to cause trouble. more than just what the anti-caking agents will give us. In the case of ich treatment, this is a 2-4 week process which is usually only 2 weeks total, and then the salt is removed via water changes. the minute levels of compound could not possibly be enough to build up on a fishes gills, and I would surmise (although I don't know for certain) that they would wash clean in time after the salt is no longer being added. under no circumstance would I reccomend continued use of salt beyond treatment. Remember we are trying to kill a deadly parasite here, not condition water. I also hesitate to rely heavily upon the advice of someone who doesn't seem to think it a bad thing to add salt to the water regularly. unless there was more to that thread, an informed person with a good knowledge of the subject would most likely have reccomended not adding salt at all except for treatment. The lack of understanding of one part of the equation causes me doubt as to the accuracy of the other honestly. I am forever skeptical, and it has paid dividens beyond measure in my tanks.

The other major concern or thought that I have is that to the best of my knowledge, Freshwater aquarium salt does not list what impurities it contains. So we really don't know what we are adding, and most likely are adding exactly the smae thing whether we use Doc wellfish or mortons. Lab grade NaCl with no additives is available for those who truly are worried about the extra agents.
dave
 
interesting.
the first time i treated ich after coming to these forums and reading how to do salt/heat treatment (thanks again Dave), i used aquarium salt. no problems. then a short while after, i introduced a pictus cat that i aperently had not quarentined long enough and got another case of ich. this time i used regular iodized table salt, and when i ran out and had to buy more salt anyways, i got the non-iodized table salt.
no problems with either of those.
so really, i guess to me, salt is salt, it just comes with different price tags ;)
 
Personally, I think just about every newbie on this forum owes a great deal of gratitude to Daveedka for the excellent article posted on Ich. I noticed something clinging to my fish last night and within 5 minutes (thanks to FooF's sig) was able to locate the article which described exactly what I was witnessing. I immediately began the salt treatment and 24 hours later have noticed that most of the spots are gone, meaning my fish are most likely not being re-infested). The article does discuss the possibility of the fish being weakened from the Ich and prone to possible secondary infections, so keep a watch for that. As a newbie myself, I couldn't begin to suggest that the symptoms you are seeing are any sign of this (I would have to defer to the other more experienced members for that). For what it's worth...
 
happychem said:
Let's get something clear here. Table salt does not contain iodine. Table salt contains potassium iodide. Iodine and iodide are as different as chlorine and chloride. Chlorine is a toxic gas used during WW1, chloride is the relatively harmless ion present most famously in table salt as sodium chloride.

Iodine (I2) is an antiseptic often used to disinfect wounds, iodide is an ion necessary for proper growth of all vertibrates and required by inverts like shrimp for moulting.

Yes, there are sites that report that table salt contains some magical compounds that are bad for your fish. This would be forgivable if it could be passed off as ignorance, but coming from a site trying to sell you "aquarium salt" should be the first thing to tip you off, the deliberate spreading of misinformation by these sites is only less than infuriating.

But before we get worked up about all these evil compounds in table salt, let's have a closer look at what and how much is present, shall we?(http://sci-toys.com/ingredients/table_salt.html)

For one thing, jumping back to this horse manure about iodide toxicity, there's not nearly enough KI to be even remotely harmful to your fish, at the levels present it would probably even be beneficial to your tank.

As for the dextrose or other stabilizing agents, well, firstly, there is so little there that again it is negligible, and if you're getting nervous about sodium thiosulfate, do a DIY forums search on DIY dechlorinators.

The scale makes the difference, and it's huge. Table salt ranges from 95-99% pure NaCl, it's dirt cheap. Now some folks want to sell you on "pure" NaCl, package it up and call it "Aquarium Salt", it's 99.9% pure.

There is no difference between the two. period.

Thanks Happychem for enlightening me. I have read on many sights that table salt was bad including this one. I guess I was misinformed. It also explains why I could not find anything that discussed the effects on the fish. :idea2:
 
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steveywinet said:
Personally, I think just about every newbie on this forum owes a great deal of gratitude to Daveedka for the excellent article posted on Ich.
agreed!
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Thank's again all for your help :D

The fish are all great this morning and most of the Ich seem's too have parted company with my fish, although one of my pictus still has a few, it shouldn't be long before they drop off too :D

I'll keep the treatment up for a couple of week's. The way the cycle work's with the protozoan parasite, i think this is a good timeframe to make sure my fish don't get re-infected, and my tank is Ich free :dance

They still have they're swollen stomach's today, but, not any worse than yesterday and they are all swimming around quite happily, it really doesn't seem to be bothering them.

I've decided the best course of treatment, is just to not feed them for a few day's and put a few peas in the tank. I'll obviously keep looking for sign's of anything else other than the bloating, but right now as i said they're all fine.
 
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