That is the case for most dogs. But it doesnt tend to happent hat way with "Pit Bulls" or "Pit bull" looking dogs.
Can you find the Pit Bull?
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No it isnt the issue of the identification. Its the issue that they dont care if it has ID or not they have a habit of putting it down before they call the owner. They know who the dog is and who it belongs to but they put it to sleep so the owner cant come get it. That way in their eyes its just one less Pit Bull to deal with.
just quoting this os the people just coming in here dont have to search through to find the right one
Lol this is hilarious.
I would've voted #5 and fallen victim. My sister apparently has a Chow-Chow/American Pit Bull mix so I thought I'd be able to tell. Here she is (Vegas):
And here's another of her lol.
Nice idea!
I would've voted #5 and fallen victim. My sister apparently has a Chow-Chow/American Pit Bull mix so I thought I'd be able to tell. Here she is (Vegas):
And here's another of her lol.
Nice idea!
labont865, I think it's a losing battle which will affect a lot of dog breeds, and it all has to do with money and tort reform.
Insurance underwriters can exclude dog breeds or those with certain physical characteristics (if it looks like an APBT, smells like one, you know..). It's 100% legal. The insurance lobby is pretty strong, and I would be willing to bet that the majority of insured clients who don't have these dogs would all come together to exclude APBT (or similar "breed type") owners from a pool of hazard or homeowners insurance clients just to get a much lower premium rate.
Large cities can't afford the lawsuits that come about when a kid gets attacked by a stray APBT / Presa Canario / (insert pit-bull-looking breed here). Why the city gets sued is beyond me, but it happens all too often (tort reform!) It is much easier to outlaw any dog that looks like them to reduce municipal culpability, which is why we have the laws that we have.
If you buy homeowner's insurance or an umbrella policy, read the exclusions! The APBT is classified as a "breed type". In short, if you have an incident with the dog, even it is only 1/16th APBT or equivalent "breed type" by displayed or documented breed purity, you can find yourself without an insurer by your side in court. Dog bite lawsuits pay out big dollars, even if it was a gentle dog that never bit anybody before, but only reacted because of some provocation. We may not like it, but those are the facts and no amount of demonstrations, dog shows by conerned owners, and other informative means have never changed that. Your informative poll is just a small plug in a leaking dam of bad information. If anything, momentum against these breeds just keeps getting stronger.
It's kind of like the non-native fish species that make it into our waterways. The easy way out is just to ban many species of fish from importation or sale. The big difference is that few fish look "threatening" (w/ the exception of Pirahnas due to cinematic exposure), so they have more "friends in politics".
APBT's and smiliar "breed types" have absolutely no friends anywhere except for concerned owners like you. They simply aren't "cute" like many tropical fish.
Kind of like rats and whitetail deer in the U.S. Whitetail deer have reached plague population levels in many states, costing over $1.5B per year in auto damage alone (doesn't include property damage from other means by these deer). Although there is no outcry to halt killing rats, nobody wants to see "Bambi" take an arrow or bullet to cull the excess. Whitetail deer are simply "rats with great public relations."
These dogs are on the opposite end, unfortunately. They have very little PR help except from people like you, labont. GSD's bite many more people each year, but it's not hard to get insurance w/ these. Hopefully you'll go to bat for our aquarium hobby when the public at large threatens that, too.
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Insurance underwriters can exclude dog breeds or those with certain physical characteristics (if it looks like an APBT, smells like one, you know..). It's 100% legal. The insurance lobby is pretty strong, and I would be willing to bet that the majority of insured clients who don't have these dogs would all come together to exclude APBT (or similar "breed type") owners from a pool of hazard or homeowners insurance clients just to get a much lower premium rate.
Large cities can't afford the lawsuits that come about when a kid gets attacked by a stray APBT / Presa Canario / (insert pit-bull-looking breed here). Why the city gets sued is beyond me, but it happens all too often (tort reform!) It is much easier to outlaw any dog that looks like them to reduce municipal culpability, which is why we have the laws that we have.
If you buy homeowner's insurance or an umbrella policy, read the exclusions! The APBT is classified as a "breed type". In short, if you have an incident with the dog, even it is only 1/16th APBT or equivalent "breed type" by displayed or documented breed purity, you can find yourself without an insurer by your side in court. Dog bite lawsuits pay out big dollars, even if it was a gentle dog that never bit anybody before, but only reacted because of some provocation. We may not like it, but those are the facts and no amount of demonstrations, dog shows by conerned owners, and other informative means have never changed that. Your informative poll is just a small plug in a leaking dam of bad information. If anything, momentum against these breeds just keeps getting stronger.
It's kind of like the non-native fish species that make it into our waterways. The easy way out is just to ban many species of fish from importation or sale. The big difference is that few fish look "threatening" (w/ the exception of Pirahnas due to cinematic exposure), so they have more "friends in politics".
APBT's and smiliar "breed types" have absolutely no friends anywhere except for concerned owners like you. They simply aren't "cute" like many tropical fish.
Kind of like rats and whitetail deer in the U.S. Whitetail deer have reached plague population levels in many states, costing over $1.5B per year in auto damage alone (doesn't include property damage from other means by these deer). Although there is no outcry to halt killing rats, nobody wants to see "Bambi" take an arrow or bullet to cull the excess. Whitetail deer are simply "rats with great public relations."
These dogs are on the opposite end, unfortunately. They have very little PR help except from people like you, labont. GSD's bite many more people each year, but it's not hard to get insurance w/ these. Hopefully you'll go to bat for our aquarium hobby when the public at large threatens that, too.
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N.A. You have hit the nail on the head on most points except two. It used to be a losing battle. But it is actually starting to turn around in alot of places. Like up here in Canada. Only one place has a ban and that is Ontario. And even their Ban is under major scrutany now because of our fight. They are going to be doing major modifications to the ban if they dont completely get rid of it.
And the second thing. I think Pits are very cute dogs. haha
Actually 3 things. I understand your point with the deer and rats but I dont think Pits fall intot hat category.
This is the major issue with it. Tey are so firmly discriminated against due to the media. Same thing that has happened in the past with Rotties, and Dobies. But the battle for Rotties and Dobies both ended going the right way after awhile. There is still some discrimination but it is alot easier for them now than it was in say the 80s. This is what I am hoping for, for the pits by continuing my fight for them.
And the second thing. I think Pits are very cute dogs. haha
Actually 3 things. I understand your point with the deer and rats but I dont think Pits fall intot hat category.
This is the major issue with it. Tey are so firmly discriminated against due to the media. Same thing that has happened in the past with Rotties, and Dobies. But the battle for Rotties and Dobies both ended going the right way after awhile. There is still some discrimination but it is alot easier for them now than it was in say the 80s. This is what I am hoping for, for the pits by continuing my fight for them.
There's just too much media attention here in the U.S., and a huge population base that is already heavily biased, plus tons of laws already in place in almost all 50 states. I hope you're right about the turnaround, because I sure haven't seen it with dobies and rotties on the insurance angle...and especially APBT "breed types." I keep having to say "no" to prospective tenants w/ these animals, even if said dog is just happy to see me while we talking about the rental contract w/ their "owners" (you see, dogs only let us think we are their "owners").
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Thats very true, anybody who thinks they own their dog is wrong. Dogs are our companions.
The insurance thing will be very hard to change. In Canada its alot more leniant and they have gotten past the breed discrimination alot more so than down in the US.
The insurance thing will be very hard to change. In Canada its alot more leniant and they have gotten past the breed discrimination alot more so than down in the US.
