caridina japonica dying off

wojo93

Amano Wannabe
Apr 5, 2005
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Need some advice.

I have a relatively new 10 gallon tank.

Setup: 65 watts compact fluorescent, pressurized CO2, small HOB filter w/ the carbon removed from the cartridge, Shultz Aquatic Plant Soil w/ a tiny bit of peat, three small river rocks that I gathered from a local stream (they were scrubbed, soaked, scrubbed, and soaked again over about a week). The tank is HEAVILY planted. Planting was completed approximately 4 weeks ago. Brazilian Microswords, Wisteria, Riccia, Anubius Nana. After two weeks I added 2 otos and 7 caridina japonica (amano shrimp). Last week I added a single Siamese Algae Eater (SAE).

Conditions:
pH: stable at 6.6
CO2: ~30 ppm
Nitrate: 5-10 ppm
Nitrites: negligible
Temperature: ~25C
12 Hour photo period
~50% water change once per week

Dosing: 0.5ml Seachem Flourish 3x/week, 1ml Flourish Iron 3x/week

Since the time of their introduction, the caridina japonica have been dying off one by one. They seem to be (very slightly) turning a reddish color first... then I find them dead on the bottom of the tank. Five of the seven have died within the 3 weeks they have been in the tank. It's not the SAE, they were dying before he was in there. I'm wondering if it's the levels of trace nutrients I've been adding? or the Iron? The rocks? The pH?

Plants are growing very well. The fish seem to be very happy. Even the snails that came along w/ the plants are thriving. But the shrimp are definitely having their issues. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Interesting addition....

After some additional measurements. The CO2 values are wrong!
My tap water has a KH of 4
So the CO2 concentration for a pH of 6.6 brings me to 30 ppm CO2.

BUT.. at my latest measurement, the KH in the tank seems to have risen to approximately 6, bring my CO2 concentration to 45 ppm. a bit high.. but the peat artificially deflates the pH by ~0.2 from tap conditions... so the pH/KH calculation of CO2 is slightly skewed. Is it possible that this concentration is causing the shrimp to die? The fish show no ill effects (gasping at the surface, etc..). I've since turned down the CO2 from the tank.
 
You say that your nitrates are negligible. Are you having a reading? If so, that is a problem. How old is your tank?

The amanos could have been stressed when you bought them and that is why they are dying.
 
You say that your nitrates are negligible. Are you having a reading? If so, that is a problem. How old is your tank?

The amanos could have been stressed when you bought them and that is why they are dying.

I mean nitrites here and not nitrates
 
My nitrate measurement is ~5 ppm (give or take 2ppm throughout the week).
My nitrite measurement measurement isn't as accurate. Test strips versus test drops for the nitrate kit. The strips show 0.5 ppm nitrite. But my level of trust in the accuracy isn't as high.

The tank is relatively new (6 weeks) but I've never had any nitrogen cycling problems due to the amount of plants (lots of fast growing stem plants). They tend to take use the ammonium directly before toxic levels of nitrite form.

I'll hit the LFS tomorrow and pick up a more reliable nitrite test kit just to be safe. Thanks for the thoughts.
 
Can you get a liquid tes kit?

I lost inverts recently every time they shed their exoskeleton.

I dont know the exact cause but I came to the conclusion that it was either small amounts of ammonia or the plant ferts I was adding.

They really need an established tank or one with excessive filtration.

I do have 6 in a newly established 10G. They are thriving where they didnt thrive in my 30G. However I have a UGF running with an airpump filtering at 100 litre per hour in a 30l tank, along with a fluval 1 internal and a fluval 2+ internal. I must be filtering 200-300 l/h in a 30l tank...

My Bamboo shrimp is loving it in there since I moved him from my 30G...
 
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