Child Molester Glorified by Dateline NBC...

[Native American]

You said: "For those who can't live with the law as written, there are other countries that overlook this sort of thing...these people should immediately apply for a visa."

Laws are being re-written all the time. .

Gee, nobody on this forum would have figured that one out on their own...we had no idea that many countries have a legislative branch that does this sort of work (sarcasm for those who don't get it). That one isn't going to be re-written for a while, and we can only thank God for that. There are plenty of countries that approve of this sort of thing. If you don't want the negative attention and can't wait for new laws making statuatory rape an accepted form of behavior, head that way.

If you don't think it's rape, come on down and try it yourself in full view of the public and see what happens. That's the way the laws are written no matter what your personal view. Nursie is 100% correct. 99.9% (just my opinion of the numbers) of the people who argue in favor of this sick event would be afraid of trying it because of a certain rape conviction...and 0.01% of these people are sick and tupid enough to try it and most certainly end up in jail on a rape conviction. The inmates generally don't think highly of these folks, either.

How can a child with this mentality be capable of making a decision about having sex with his teacher. As stated earlier - boys (and girls) are all hormones at this age. The laws protect them from people who take advantage of that child's sexual intuitiveness and lack of mature judgement.

To say that a 13 year old boy is mature enough to make this type of decision is ridiculous.

My emphasis added. She took clear advantage of the situation. In case some are confused, the issue is crime and punishment. One happened, the other resulted, and the remanded convict is serving time.
v/r, N-A

 

[Ms.Bubbles]

That one isn't going to be re-written for a while, and we can only thank God for that. There are plenty of countries that approve of this sort of thing. If you don't want the negative attention and can't wait for new laws making statuatory rape an accepted form of behavior, head that way.

I'm certainly not advocating legalizing statutory rape. But unlike you, I feel that when people reach adulthood, they have the right to make their own decisions whether I personally agree with them or not. If they're not doing anything illegal (which they aren't doing now) I must accept their choice. Sorry, but shipping people out of the country because you don't like their lifestyle reeks of intolerance to me. You can't seem to face the fact that both of these people are adults now (how mature they really are is another question). The NBC story concerns their life together now. Clinging only to the crime aspect of the story from 7 years ago entirely misses the point of the NBC show.

 

[OrionGirl]

No one is saying the relationship NOW is illegal. The point is that the behavior THEN, which was being glossed over in the media, was illegal. The only reason this relationship is even news is because of how it started!

 

[Ms.Bubbles]

I think everyone clings to the crime part because they can't accept or understand the "love" part of this story. Looking at the situation from where the couple stands now puts another spin on the story, which I believe people are deeply uncomfortable with.

 

[OrionGirl]

No, not really. I know lots of people happily married with large age differences, and it's not a big deal, it's not news worthy. The ONLY thing that makes this newsworthy is the crime.

 

[nursie]

As things are now it's a non-story, and IMO should have been allowed to sink into anonimity. Their poor children are going to have to live with the aftereffects of all this.
There are many other couples out there with large age differences. At this point..big deal. I'm sure they got a chunk of change for the interview. If they want to hang all their dirty laundry out there now for the world to see..fine.

Is it love? Who knows? Not us. Is it continued manipulation...someone wanting to "show people" it all meant something, or what..who knows..who cares. I'm betting it doesn't last. The lack of morality that went into the creation of this relationship doesn't lend itself to stability. I don't recall seeing it mentioned that this woman had a husband and children when this started. The 13 yr old boy didn't seem to care about them...nor did the wife/mother.

 

[Ms.Bubbles]

No, not really. I know lots of people happily married with large age differences, and it's not a big deal, it's not news worthy. The ONLY thing that makes this newsworthy is the crime.

I don't mean it's just the age difference that bothers people. It seems that many people either can't accept or choose to overlook the fact that the "victim" was not some innocent child who was preyed upon, but rather a sexually confident and experienced young man who was determined to seduce his teacher. Not many people want to think of children (or their own sons) in that way.

 

[nursie]

Well...I can rememeber hearing >20 yrs ago of a guy aquitted of child molestation because the judge bought the story that the 5 yr old girl behaved in a seductive and lavicious manner towards him.

 

[Ms.Bubbles]

Here we are comparing 5-year-olds to 13-year-olds again. Come on nursie, do you really believe you were the same person at 5 than you were at 13? This is the thinking that I'm referring to--refusal to accept that some young people are very sexually mature for their age (not necessarily mature in other ways). Not only are they not traumatized by sexual experiences, they actively seek them out and can handle them. Not legal, but true nonetheless.

 

[nursie]

I've worked in our local health depts STD clinic. I well know that 13 yr olds can be sexually experienced. They can and do seek out sexual experiences. You see girls that age pregnant. Do I believe that he could have set out to seduce the teacher? Absolutely.
Do I believe a 13 yr old is emotionally capable of a mature adult relationship? No. Do I think a 13 yr old is capable of fully understanding the ramifications of his actions? No. At age 21 can he now? I don't know. Doesn't really matter to me.
What I see is at the time this all started SHE was the adult..she was the person in authority and she should have put a stop to it.