Childhood vaccines

Also...in regards to timing of immunizations...the dosing times are calculated to be given when your childs immune system is able to handle them. In premature infants or otther problems they may adjust the schedule until the child reached a certain body weight.
On the other hand, if premature children and children with chrionic resiopratory problems there is an immunization for RSV, which is a respiratory system virus that young children get and it is deadly. Risk factors include prematurity, chronic respiratory disease, low socioeconomic status, multiple small children in one household and previously having the condition. It's a monthly injection through RSV season, which is Oct through April. Talk to your doctor to see if this is something you child needs.

Also...I had a friend that's husband had severe resipiratory poblems, and was waiting for a lung transplant. They had to modify some of the immunizations that they gave their daughter based on that. If there is someone who is immunosuppressed in your household..talk to your local health department. It wasn't that she didn't get the immunizations, it was that they had to adjust what they gave her and make sure she got all dead virus vaccines instead of live virus. That is the kind of thing your md might not be aware of.
 
Vaccines are scary. They scare you into getting them, and your scared if you do get them.

Question: and maybe this has nothing to do with vaccines... but why do kids have so many more health/mental issues now than they did before vaccines were mandatory?

There are hundreds of people that don't get vaccines. My SIL has never had them. One of my doctors hasnt' had them and neither have his kids. They're adults now and are very healthy.

I was terrified to have my kids get them, and I was terrified not to. It's like a catch 22.

Do I think my son's Autism has something to do with them? Sometimes I wonder. He was going along fine. Speaking and all that. Suddenly he regressed down to babbling. But I know that some kids with autism natrually. Just odd that it happened after his 18 month vaccines.

There's too many doctors who say some of the vaccine's ingredients cause autism, and too many say it doesn't. Again...it's a circle that will go for a long time.

Lila
 
I'm still very undecided about the issue, and still learning about it. I figured starting this thread again would at least bring up some of the points I may be forgetting to look into. I started with the CDC website and read almost all of their links (and saved them ;) ). I figured I should read the "practical information" and get their side before I start looking into the anit-vaccine literature, that way I understand the technical aspects first, what is recommended and why, etc.

The autism debate is what peaked my interest to begin with, and I have not looked into that much YET. I have heard recently though that most of the tests/studies are not showing a link. Then again, most of these "studies" are not independent and are funded by the government in one way or another.

I hate to admit it, but I'm a bit of a conspiracy theorist, and I don't fully trust our government, which is why I am trying to do my own research in an unbiased way. My husband and I are both educated, we're not kooks, living up in the hills somewhere ;) !! However I don't want my reservations and mistrust to effect the health of my child!! No one would have ever thought that our government was experimenting on people 30 years ago (dont' remember the details, but was it syphillis given to african american men?) but they were, so yes I'm a little leary when I'm told my child has to receive a ton of shots to enter school...

I'll have my second ultrasound in a couple of weeks and we decided to find out the sex. I was leaning toward finding out from the beginning, but my husband didn't want to know, so we weren't going to find out. However now he thinks he wants to know :rolleyes: ! I told him it was totally up to him, I can't decide what to order when I go to a restaurant :laugh: .

Well, thanks, keep the thoughts coming :thm:
 
Lila Boffins said:
Question: and maybe this has nothing to do with vaccines... but why do kids have so many more health/mental issues now than they did before vaccines were mandatory?
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On the "mental" issue, and this is a little off-topic, I think that after ADD and ADHD were identified, many parents became concerned because their kids...
A) had free will
B) weren't paying attention because the subject didn't interest them
C) both

I think that most kids diagnosed with ADD/ADHD don't have it. Not to say that it doesn't exist. I know friends who have it. And I mean really, really have it. :D Same with other 'overhyped' disorders, like OCD and Bipolar...we are talking definate differences when they aren't on their meds. (I go to an art school, and I think I'm the only one there that doesn't have a morning "cocktail". (...it seems that all the people that are talented or brilliant have something to balance it out...wonder why...

Back to immunizations. I agree that the chances of anything happening are slim, but if you're worried, try and see if you can get away with just getting the polio, tetanus, hepatitus, etc shots...all the severe diseases, and risk measles, mumps, chicken pox, flu, etc, as they come.
 
Both my children have had and will get all the shots they need. (They're 4 and 2) The only shot we ever had a possible problem with was the flu shot. A week after my son got it (at 18mo old) he spiked a fever and went into febrile convulsions. They are scary but typically harmless convulsions. I'm not even sure the shot was the cause, my son tends to high fevers anyway. I even ran a 103 temp once while pregnant with him, and I almost never get fevers. One thing I've also heard is that people think some of these problems were linked to mercury in shots - but mercury has been removed from shots since I think 2001. Getting them is really worth any trouble. There will always be a small percent that can't safely participate in what is the norm for the rest of us. But that doesn't mean as a society we should stop participating. I have a friend who's daughter is deathly allergic to ALL milk products. She can't even pass by an Ice Cream shop. She can't east food processed with machinery that was used to process something else with milk. Anyway, point is, we shouldn't stop trying to give milk to kids because of one percent's allergy. Even her Mom would agree with that, even though it's extremely stressfull for her. Her daughter can't even be in the Lunchroom with other kids, because preschoolers sometimes bring dairy, and often "wear" it instead of eating it. Sorry for the long post. :o :)
 
Like I said, I haven't started looking into the anti-sites yet, but I know the mercury was a big issue, which I think they did remove from the vaccines. But isn't there still something mercury related that the focus has moved onto?

And that poor kid :( , what an awful allergy to have. I could never live w/out cheese, at least most allergies like that aren't acquired later in life
 
There are a lot more factors in things like ADD/ADHD than just vaccinations. There are other things that can influence that, including medications and other chemical exposure by the mother while carrying the child, and heredity. I took an antinausea drug while pregnant with my eldest called Benedictine, which has been linked with ADD. And guess what? SHe has ADD...not the hyperactive type..but the daydreamy don't pay attention in class type.

Illicit drug use and excessive alcohol use are linked to behavior problems BIG TIME. Not just drug use while pregnant, but long term drug use can result in birth defects. And not just by the mother, but the father too. I knew a guy that was a big time pothead, and not sure what else he was into. I remember a newspaper article in my hometown paper that featured him and his wife and kids and just how unlucky they were to have one child born with out eyes and the other born without part of an arm. If you knew the guy..you knew why.
 
Holly,
I think it's great that you want to make an educated decision before just doing what the norm is. I mean, this is your child. As for whatever was said about kids being diagnosed with more stuff and having more health problems, I think for one thing too many people want to label the slightest behavioral problem and get a quick fix for it. Also, I think that our doctors are able to identify many more things that lack of studies and technology before have now enabled us to discover. I truly do not believe for a second that vaccines cause autism because there are too many people that have more than one child with the disorder. Most people believe that it is a genetic disorder. As for children who began to walk and talk and then regress, that is a certain type of autism, as there are many different types.
 
Larissa said:
I think for one thing too many people want to label the slightest behavioral problem and get a quick fix for it...
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Agreed, which is also why I am very leary about all the new medications that are being marketed. Suddenly it is being drilled into our heads from every medium available that we should be asking our doctor about a drug that we don't even know the purpose of!! I think that is terrifying that drug companies are able to yield so much power these days and make us think that we need a medication for every slight feeling we have. I just learned from a news story that one of the drugs I was taking for my asthma before I got pregnant is being considered for removal from the market b/c of a rise in related deaths :eek:
 
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