Cichlid and tank help please!

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AnDr3w

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Ok I am putting an order together to order from Jeff Rapps. I'm really excited to do this. Ok bare with me.

I have a broken 75 gallon tank in my garage, and I'm going to replace the pane. I will NOT order the fish until I replace the pane, re-seal it and have in up and running with an old(cycled) filter.

So let's just say that all that is done, and I'm ready to order. I am ordering these fish for sure. Here they are.

6) Amphilophus Festae 1.5" (festae cichlid)
2) Amphilophus Calobrensis 1.5" (calbrensis cichlid)
2) Geophagus Discrozoster 3" (no common name)
1) Archocentrus Octofasciatus 1.5" (gold jack dempsey)
3) Parachromis Managuense 1.5" (jaguar cichlid)

When I order, I will have TWO 75g tanks(75g A/75g B), a 29g and a 10g. All up and running.

Here is how I am thinking of stocking it.

In 75g A, I will have an 8" O, and a 14" Channel cat.
In 75g B, I will have six 1.5" festae, and two calobrensis, with 10, maybe 15 dither fish.
In the 29g, I will have the three 1.5" jaguars and the two 3" geos.
In the 10g, I will have one 1.5" geophagus brasiliensis and one 1.5" gold jack dempsey.


Ok so what do you guys think on my stocking? Please be aware that these are grow out tanks, and will be upgraded. :) If you do not agree with the stocking, what would you change around?

Thanks guys!
 
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dempsey will outgrow the 10g in no time
 
I'm not positive on the stocking once all are full grown so I will leave that for another to anser. I would suggest not ordering all of those fish at one time though. Even if they are all juvies, that is allot of fish and almost sure to create a significant spike.
 
deadxero said:
I'm not positive on the stocking once all are full grown so I will leave that for another to anser. I would suggest not ordering all of those fish at one time though. Even if they are all juvies, that is allot of fish and almost sure to create a significant spike.
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I never really thought of that. I' pretty sure that my filters could handle the extra bio loads tho. I will list my filters on each tank tho, just to make sure.

Here's how they would be. Everything is cycled.

75g A: Eheim 2028
75g B: Eheim(With all of the new "Rapps" fish) Eheim 2215, AC 70
29g: Penguin 350b
10g: Eliete Hush 35
 
It's kind of hard to answer bioload questions in grow out tanks because:

1. Don't know how long you plan to keep the fish in these tanks
2. Fish grow at different rates and people feed at different levels so bioload will vary from fish to fish and person to person.

I don't see much of a problem if these fish are going to be moved as soon as you deem them too large for the tank, however in your 29g I see issues between the jags and geos so you may want to keep a watch on that. Even at just a few inches my jag takes offense to most of his tankmates, it's just that they're all either too fast or too aggressive for him to do much damage.

Your 10g won't last too long as a growout.
 
bigspizz said:
I would buy 1 nice larger fish for one of the 75's and stock the rest with fish available locally. Replacing a Jeff Rapps fish SUCKS especially when 1 dies. You will most likely just never order it again. You can find all of the fish you listed in your home town I am sure except 1 or 2....
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I am aware of the "if they die" situation, and I agree. I will not want to order the same fish as I already did, but it died. I am concerned about that, but to be honest, I think that the benefits out way the dissadvantages. I too agree that I can find the fish locally, except the festae and the calobrensis. But just saying this is a Jeff Rapps fish means a lot to me. Plus you have the price advantage and the quality advantage, which also out way's the thought of not ordering.
 
RiVerfishgirl said:
It's kind of hard to answer bioload questions in grow out tanks because:

1. Don't know how long you plan to keep the fish in these tanks
2. Fish grow at different rates and people feed at different levels so bioload will vary from fish to fish and person to person.

I don't see much of a problem if these fish are going to be moved as soon as you deem them too large for the tank, however in your 29g I see issues between the jags and geos so you may want to keep a watch on that. Even at just a few inches my jag takes offense to most of his tankmates, it's just that they're all either too fast or too aggressive for him to do much damage.

Your 10g won't last too long as a growout.
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I think your right about the jags and the geos. What do you guys think about this?

The 3 jags, 3 calobrensis and the 6 festae all in one 75g. Then get a lot of dithers and put huge ammounts of filtration it. Then, put the GJD in the 29.

What is your oppinions about this?
 
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