Closed loop system questions

I have a question on the inflo PVC, does the mag actually suck from the tank through this pipe or does it have to be gravity fed somehow. I would assume you fill with water before starting pump, if it actually pulls the water from the tank. If not how do you feed the water through.
 
kraze said:
does the mag actually suck from the tank through this pipe
It does suck the water from the tank. The full design on melev's site (the link to his site is in my first post) has a cap on the top of the inflow pipe that you use to prime the pump. That and the perforated pipe that goes in the tank isn't in the designs I posted here because I only had questions on the outflow part. You should check out his site if you haven't already. It's pretty cool and very extensive.
 
I did check out his site, very informative. I was looking into CLS and the design you posted looked easy enough to accomplish. I was just curious about the intake pipe, I understand the rest of the diagram

Thanks for the reply, and the diagram :)
 
mogurnda said:
You may be able to skip this step if you just leave the windows closed when you're using the PVC cement.

One thing that has improved my life considerably is a ratcheting PVC cutter. Looks like pruning shears. Saves a lot of time and makes clean cuts.

Best tool I ever bought, don't put your finger in there...
 
Success!!!!

Finally got this project done last weekend and am very happy I did it. Assembling, testing, and installing took about 7 hours, although I did also give the tank a good cleaning during it, which I'm sure added a lot to the time.

I went with 1 1/4" pipe on the inflow (1 1/2 looked too big in the tank), 1" on the pump outflow, and 3/4" out of the scwd. I really have no idea whether the different sizes added anything but difficulty to it, but the scwd is switching every 6 seconds (which I think means there's a good flow rate) and the flow out of the loc-line feels good, so I figure I done good 'nuff. The directions with the mag did say to use 1 1/2" plumbing, but who likes to pay attention to directions.

The total cost came to about $280:
  • $74 for the pump (mag 9.5)
  • $32 for the scwd
  • $72 for the loc-line (man that stuff is expensive)
  • About $100 for the pvc, which includes all the pipe, fittings, valves, tools, glue, etc. I've also got enough left over to build a two-family house
If anybody were to do this I'm sure you could lower the cost by using less or no loc-line, using a different pump, and only buying the pvc you actually need (I was more afraid of having to run out to Home Depot at the last minute).

Here's a pic of the layout before I started putting it together. The pipes aren't all cut to length, but you can get an idea of the different fittings that went into it.
closed_loop_layout.JPG


Here's a not-so-great pic of it installed. Can't really get a good angle for pictures. I've got the pump sitting on a trunk and it makes a fairly loud humming noise. I put a towel underneath and that worked a little. Anybody have any tips to reduce noise?
closed_loop_installed.JPG


Here's a before picture. Notice all the powerheads hanging precariously by their suction cups, almost taunting me....
before_closed_loop.JPG


And here's after. I think it looks tons better and not having to worry about a powerhead falling off and kicking up a sandstorm or chewing up a coral is very nice.
after_closed_loop.JPG


mogurnda said:
You may be able to skip this step if you just leave the windows closed when you're using the PVC cement.
You aint kidding. A few scotches did compliment it nicely though. Also that cutting tool worked great. Thanks for everyone's input on this. It's always much appreciated.
 
Hey man looks great. Tanks looks alot less clutterd. I am seriously considering removing the powerheads and going this route also.

Is the mag overly loud or just an annoying loud?
 
Thanks very much. It really does make the tank look bigger on the sides, probably because you get a lot more reflection off the sides now.

Is the mag overly loud or just an annoying loud?
The mag itself isn't really loud at all. My problem is that I've got it sitting on a cheap trunk and it's making a humming noise from the vibration on the lid. The towel dampened it some, and I may try putting a piece of plywood or something under it. Right now you only notice it if you listen for it, so I'm not worried.

Any leaks?
None so far. I was very generous with the primer and glue and used teflon tape on all the threaded connections. I figure I'll be pretty screwed if I get one, especially if I'm not home. I'm thinking that if it hasn't leaked yet I'm good to go, right? Or are there spots that may develop leaks over time?
 
The mag itself isn't really loud at all. My problem is that I've got it sitting on a cheap trunk and it's making a humming noise from the vibration on the lid. The towel dampened it some, and I may try putting a piece of plywood or something under it. Right now you only notice it if you listen for it, so I'm not worried.
I use pieces of an old wetsuit, but a mousepad will also work. Really quiets things.


None so far. I was very generous with the primer and glue and used teflon tape on all the threaded connections. I figure I'll be pretty screwed if I get one, especially if I'm not home. I'm thinking that if it hasn't leaked yet I'm good to go, right? Or are there spots that may develop leaks over time?
If it doesn't leak now, you're good to go!

Isn't it nice when things work?
 
Thanks. I'll have to try the mousepad trick. Unfortunately I only got into diving last year so my wetsuits haven't been worn out enough to be made into shorties yet (hoping to get enough dives in this year to get to that point though).

mogurnda said:
Isn't it nice when things work?
Very nice and a little unbelievable. I had to keep telling myself to do it slowly during this so I wouldn't screw anything up.
 
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