Cloudy Aquarium Help

yes and teh water in the tank and teh water i put in was exactly the same according to my test kit an I use phstabalizer from nutrafin I don't know if that helps
 
My bigest concern is when I did the 15-20% water changes the fish showed no signs of stress or anything everytime I did the 50% I lost fish so before I put any fish in the tank again I want to figure out what is going on I just etsted again and Ammonia was less then .25ppm Nitrate is 5.0ppm, ph is 6.8 which i know is low but that is where it has been for a few months since I had the fish Nitrite is .25 ppm if any of this helps. Thanks in advance for your time
 
MPaulley said:
Actually since you so kindly like to flame and jump to conclusions the fish were dumped on me by someone who was going to flush them, you would have known that had you read any of my other posts. So I erally had no choice in the fish the tank was already cycled before even got the fish I did a water change and it seemed to have cycled the tank again.

Don't care about your other posts. You have my suggestion.

If you don't have room to separate the fish correctly, return some of the fish to the store for credit.

Your tank isn't cycling again unless you did something to alter the bioload. Like removing/cleaning filter media, or added something to the tank that destroyed bacteria.
 
What are your ammonia/nitrite levels now? I would say that's why you are loosing the fish. I will also state that you are over crowded. Kudos for the rescue, but you can't keep things as they are. Red tailed sharks get 6'+. Goldfish, as stated, are coldwater fish, messy and require a bigger tank than what you have. Not sure what size your loaches are...if small can be ok for a while in a 65. The dragon goby needs brackish water..which is different reuirements yet. You need to decide what fish you can best keep, and either donate to a lfs...see if you can get store credit, or give to someone. You can't keep on with all those fish with different requirements together.

You need to keep up with the water changes..even 2x daily until ammonia and nitrites are 0 if you want to quit loosing fish. Ditch the ph stabilizer. The only additive you need is the ammoquel.
What about temp? is the water you add the same temp as the tank water? or close? How are you adding the declorinator? WHat kind of dose are you adding and when?
Are you using a bucket to add the water? maybe one that's been used for cleaning other things? Have you checked your water parameters on water just out of the tap??
 
graphicdesign_r said:
Don't care about your other posts. You have my suggestion.

If you don't have room to separate the fish correctly, return some of the fish to the store for credit.

Your tank isn't cycling again unless you did something to alter the bioload. Like removing/cleaning filter media, or added something to the tank that destroyed bacteria.

Thought you quit or your leaving? Please don't waste your time or my time with your random garbage
 
nursie said:
What are your ammonia/nitrite levels now? I would say that's why you are loosing the fish. I will also state that you are over crowded. Kudos for the rescue, but you can't keep things as they are. Red tailed sharks get 6'+. Goldfish, as stated, are coldwater fish, messy and require a bigger tank than what you have. Not sure what size your loaches are...if small can be ok for a while in a 65. The dragon goby needs brackish water..which is different reuirements yet. You need to decide what fish you can best keep, and either donate to a lfs...see if you can get store credit, or give to someone. You can't keep on with all those fish with different requirements together.

You need to keep up with the water changes..even 2x daily until ammonia and nitrites are 0 if you want to quit loosing fish. Ditch the ph stabilizer. The only additive you need is the ammoquel.
What about temp? is the water you add the same temp as the tank water? or close? How are you adding the declorinator? WHat kind of dose are you adding and when?
Are you using a bucket to add the water? maybe one that's been used for cleaning other things? Have you checked your water parameters on water just out of the tap??

I have tried taking Fish to the lfs they said they only except fish that they have sold this is why I ended up with them. The ammonia is at 0 after the second water change and nitrates looks to be a little below 5. Nitrite is below .25 I didn't notice last night that the bubble wands were not working I could not see this through the cloudy water but when I went looking for problems I found that. Can low oxy levels cause the tank to cycle? I still have nto found the reason that he tank cycled again? Temp is 82 degrees Thanks in advance for any help
 
MPaulley said:
Thought you quit or your leaving? Please don't waste your time or my time with your random garbage

I came back just to hurl insults at your great big ignorant, argumentative, obtuse butt.

You went to ONE LFS and they wouldn't take fish in. You don't have a phone? Can't call around? You'll take the fish in, but won't care for them properly?

THAT, my not friend, is some f**king garbage. Speaking of garbage, you may as well throw your fish in there because under your "care" and consideration for their needs they will most likely perish anyways.

You've been told multiple times in this post your goby (gobby dragon, f'n should have smelled the ignorance right there) is a BRACKISH FISH. Yet when we suggest how to remedy the situation, you give excuses. Next time don't ask for advice, just do what you want because (AS PROVEN HERE) you will regardless of what advice you get.

So how about you go away? What did you come here for? You want people to stroke your ego or something? Tell you how cool it is that you have inappropriate fish and don't care what anyone thinks or says about it?

Get bent, and eat my shorts. :sim:
 
MPaulley said:
At this point would it help to get that biospira? or would that just add to the problem?
BioSpira should definitely help reduce both ammonia and nitrite levels. However, the bacteria in it will convert both the toxic compounds into nitrate. So test for nitrates and do water changes to keep them belo 20ppm, below 12 ppm is even better.

The only way BioSpira could possibly hurt is if it was handled improperly (it needs constant refridgeration) and has died. In which case, the dead bacteria will add to your ammonia and nitrite because it will decompose.

It is expensive and somewhat hard to find. Only one of 4 of my LFS's sells it and it's $20.00 for 1oz (enough to treat up to 30 gal). There are larger size packages, but that's the only one my store carries.
 
Well, GD-R...you know you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar you know, but oh well..ahve another one for me ;)

Anyway..like he says, I'd try calling more lfs to see if any would accept your orphans. If not...maybe you need to get another tank or 2 to acomidate all the fish.

YEs..the bubble wands being off can contribute tot he problem. Your poor fish have probably been depending on that for O2 since the tank is crowded. I'm not sure what benefit you would gain by adding biospira...like I said before...don't keep adding stuff to your tank. I suspect the cloudy water is because you are over crowded.

You didn't answer all the questions I asked....
WHat fish do you have left after the deaths you have had?? Your overcrowding problem may be over soon. And if you are doing water changes 2x/day...I don't see how you can still ahve cloudy water.
How are you doing your water changes???
If you really want help...need all the info.
 
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