Cloudy water again...!!!

Jag1980

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I rescaped my tank about a month ago and the last 2 weeks or so I got cloudy water again and I can't get rid of it..

When I moved the sand around I had some root tabs that probably got into the water from the substrate being disturbed. SO I tried not dosing my tank for a week and it just kept getting worse every day.
I tried a 75% water change, few days later cloudy again, so I did a 80% water change and new filter poly floss stuff and left the lights off for a day, a few days later it comes back again.. I had no nutrients in my water and no Ammonia or Nitrite. 2 days ago I does the tank and still getting cloudy water that gets worse every day.. I even tried adding some Seachem Stability with no different results.

What is going on here..? My tank was clear for the first couple weeks..

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there are other factors to consider like there may be chemicals released from whatever biological medium there is inside your filtration system. the plants could also release certain chemicals which may not really be harmful to the fish. by the way, are there fishes in your tank coz i don't see any in your pics. if there are, you should check whether there are changes in them or not. some dissolved chemicals do not go away that easily too. even if you do partial water change, sometimes, they still affect the new introduced water.
 
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There is an additive you can use to clear up cloudy water. it's called Accu-Clear. It "bonds" microscopic particles in the water and they are filtered out in your filter system.
 
There is an additive you can use to clear up cloudy water. it's called Accu-Clear. It "bonds" microscopic particles in the water and they are filtered out in your filter system.

Rather than a "quick fix" I think it would be more beneficial to discover the cause of the problem and remedy it directly.

Kristina
 
Diatoms and free floating algae can bloom at any time if you have sand substrata and when the conditions are right. I have fine sand and would go through diatom bloom and crash cycles every couple weeks, followed by algae blooms from high phosphates and too much indirect sunlight. All that ended though with the use of my UV sterilizer. With infrequent use of as little as 24 hours a week the UV sterilizer keeps blooms from happening by braking the chromosomes of free floating algae, bacteria, pathogens and single cell organisms. I liked the submersible 24W UV Green killing Machine so much I bough a 2nd one for my 120 so I wouldn't have to pull it out of the water to move it around. Most UV sterilizers come without a matched pump and allot of people have no success because they buy the wrong pump or install it into the filter return flow which is too high GPH to correctly provide the rate of UV exposure to damage chromosomes. The Green Killing Machine is a factory UV/pump matched system which provides a certified and tested rate of flow for max chromosome damage, Best of all it cost allot less then unmatched systems.

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changing so much water all at once , probably sent your tank into a mini cycle
 
I did a 75% water change, left my lights off for 3 days, did another 75%^ water change and changed the Poly fill in my filter and a few days later green water again and my plants start to get brown.
When my water is clear my plants do great, once it starts to get cloudy the plants start to stunt and die..

Just because I have green water my plants should not get brown spots and there quality diminish correct?
It must be something else, maybe a root tab to close to the surface adding to much Micro and Macros at the same time in my water?
Mostly my Belem's are affected.
I use to grow prefect looking Belem's that reproduced like crazy, ever since I added root tabs in my tank I have had nothing but problems.
Since a few months back, some people might remember my threads about these issues, they all started once adding root tabs by Seachem.

I would have 20 new Belem's every other week, now I'm nursing back to life the ones I got left from 3 months ago, they still wont grow properly and keep wanting to die because of this.
 
Here some pictures

Notice the Belem's here, very bad condition. The cloudier the water gets the worse they get. When I get my water clear for a few days they start to come back, but then my water gets cloudy again and the go down hill fast. Also notice the crypt in front, it's suppose to be nice dark bright green color and has been for months, now they are getting the same type of brown streaks as the grassy looking crypts I have in the picture below, also the tips on the leaves are curled..
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My grassy looking Crypts are suppose to be green ad have been for a while, now for the past month or so since the cloudy water issue they are turning a brown color as you can see in this picture
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Notice the top half of this plant, very nice and healthy looking. Below it what happens when my water gets cloudy, you can see the grow out difference..

I can't figure out what is causing the cloudy water issues. Normal green water algae bloom should not do this to plants and should not have these type of affect on these plants this quickly correct?

I'm really getting tired of these unknown problems and really thinking about ditching the whole aquarium thing. I do not enjoy having my tank look like crap and my plants die all the time. I have had this tank for a year, for the first 7 months my plants and tank looked great, now i have nothing but problems.. Could the root tabs be burning my plants or too phosphate or potassium ?
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If the problems started popping up after you changed to sand and started using root tabs, then I think it would be the root tabs. Root tabs are notorious for releasing phosphates and clouding up water when disturbed.
 
If the problems started popping up after you changed to sand and started using root tabs, then I think it would be the root tabs. Root tabs are notorious for releasing phosphates and clouding up water when disturbed.

That could be why I still get BBA with good levels of Co2?
Could to much phosphate cause burns to plants or what are some symptoms of too much Phosphates in plants, does anyone know?

Sounds like I should maybe dig up all my plants and try and remove these root tabs, they are suppose to last 3 to 4 months, so waiting for them to fully dissolve will take way too long. I should have got the cheap ones that last only a month..
 
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