Clown Loaches...

How is a foot long clown loach stunted? Deformed maybe but stunted? Like someone said, that loach was a rescue made by Emma Turner, one of the experts at loaches.com. I've read that it has grown bigger since that video was made.

You're right is300zx... I was thinking the same thing as I typed that post, but I get so irked whenever that loach's horn get's tooted lol

It shouldn't be a goal to have your loach look like that, but rather attain the same length, with the normal shape.

Expert? IMO, an expert (if deciding to keep clowns in capitivity) would have a huge stream type of enclosure made (along the lines of a public aquarium exhibit). On the other had, being highly knowledgeable about the fish, and giving them great care (being able to grow them to adult size albeit deformed) is an experienced aquarist rather than an expert. But like I said, that's my opinion.

cheers buddy
 
SoCal, to be honest I hope you're right... although many ooh and ahh at that big pig in Emma's 1000L tank, I like the much more streamlined look like the smaller ones normally have. I hope mine dont stunt or deform, since my tank will be about the same size but have less loaches (albeit more plants), probably around 8 or nine clowns as well as maybe a dozen or two zebras.
 
Lots and lots of good thoughts, but how about a few twists and turns to make the conversation even more interesting. Most of us eat pork, chicken, turkey, maybe even veal or farmed fish - have you ever considered the conditions that these animals are kept in for their very limited life spans? Does it make it okay to treat them this way just because they are being raised to eat? Most of us probably never even think of making a fuss about their care but we worry about overcrowding a clown loach! No, I'm not a vegetarian and I do try to treat all of my pets well, but every day millions of animals are being treated very poorly in the name of a cheap food supply and hardly a word is heard regarding feedlots or hundreds of thousands of chickens under one roof who never even get to see the light of day and are routinely killed in the prime of their lives. And pigs, who I understand are more intelligent than the average dog, are kept in very crowded conditions until killed for meat. Enough already!
And that whole thing about their being better off in the wild! Please! Between predation, disease and environmental problems such as drastic temperature changes, pollution, flooding, streams drying up, limited food supply, etc. the average life span of a wild animal is very short. Most animals never even get to maturity, defined as the age/size when they are capable of breeding. Even top of the line predators rarely die of old age. I'm not saying that we, as hobbyists shouldn't do our **** for the animals we accept responsibilty for but let's not fool ourselves into believing that life in the wild is a cake walk.
Bottom line for me is that I want to enjoy this hobby and I can't do that unless I know that I am doing the best I can to keep these animals, which give me so much pleasure, healthy and happy. I realize that "best" is limited by reality which means that I function with a limited budget and have to accept some compromises and I try to make good decisions along the way.
Beasts
 
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Well said beasts!

Thats why I don't eat pork and beef, and I'm also trying not to eat much chicken anymore aswell as fish.

The fact is human beings are the meanest things on earth, and it seems most us never take care of what we have been given. Like, for example, people skinning alive dogs and cats in China and before that starving them, the senseless killing of Cougars when people are complaining about the high deer populations, and the horrible slaughter of Cows, are just to name a few.


Cory Lover
 
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Well said beasts!

Thats why I don't eat pork and beef, and I'm also trying not to eat much chicken anymore aswell as fish.

The fact is human beings are the meanest things on earth, and it seems most us never take care of what we have been given. Like, for example, people skinning alive dogs and cats in China and before that starving them, the senseless killing of Cougars when people are complaining about the high deer populations, and the horrible slaughter of Cows, are just to name a few.

Cory Lover

You sound like you have been listening to too much PETA. They are full of nonsense. Most of what they say is lies. The way that we humans eat animals is much more humane than how wild animals to it. We kill our meat quickly and efficiently. Animals in the wild are torn apart and eaten while still alive. Also, cows have evolved to be prey, and we are predators higher on the food chain than them.
 
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while its true that we usually "kill our meat quickly", they are pretty much tortured up until the time of death unlike a wild animal doing what it is suppose to do until that unlucky day.


how the hell can a cow kept in a cage in a warehouse that cant even turn around with not even natural lighting be better then a wild water beast running around with its herd chyllen in africa


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Before this gets out oh hand, please bring this thread back to the direct discussion of keeping clown loaches.

Thanks for your cooperation. :)
 
I know someone who had a clown loach in a 6 gallon. The person didn't know that they can grow to be more than 4 inches long. I also didn't learn that until recently.
 
The way I see it is you might as well go ahead and get clown loaches if you have a 55 gal tank or even a 30 gal tank. Theres no rule that says that you can't keep them and enjoy keeping them untill they outgrown the tank, and it is usually going to take awhile for them to outgrow the tank. Maybe not so much in a 30 gal tank but you could still keep them for awhile. But when they do outgrow the tank you need to be able to realize that and find a new home for them. Or maybe by the time they outgrow your current tank you will be ready to get a bigger tank. Thats what I'm doing right now and in a couple of weeks mine will be in my new 125 gal tank. So wheather you get a new tank or trade in some bigger ones for some smaller ones you might as well get them and enjoy these awesome fish.
 
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