Could this be Ick?

rsharpless

rsharpless

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Just curious if this might be ick on my Green Severum? I recently changed the substrate in this 45g tank from crushed coral to a more appropriate black gravel. In doing so the tank was naturally stirred up quite a bit for about 12 hours. The next day I noticed that my Green Severum was not as active as she usually is and then I saw the white spots on her face. My immediate thought was Ick.

Her symptoms are: Lethargic, clamped fins, stays mainly in the back of the tank near the water's surface and of course the white specks. She does still come to the front of the tank when she sees me walk by and she stills eats well. Any help would be appreciated as I've never encountered ick before. Thanks

One more ?: Should I do a water change inbetween doses of Maracide? I'm also trying to lower the nitrates in this tank as they were about 80ppm before I changed the substrate. My main reason for changing the substrate was to lower the pH. It was running about 7.8.

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I cant really tell from the pic if that is ich, but are those nematodes floating around in your tank? If so, you might want to up your water changes. Also ich is caused by stress and or bad water conditions. Ich looks like little grains of salt on the fish. They are pretty uniform also, the size of all the spots should be about the same.
 
I don't think it's ick, but it looks like it might be fungus.did the fish get any injurys in that area? If so, that would make it really suseptible to fungus.
 
I don't know about the nematodes. She was sitting directly under the flow of the hang on filter when I took these photos. They look like little worms in the pictures but they're not. They're fast moving little specs from the filter. If that is a nematode then I guess they are.

I'm currently trying to lower the nitrates by doing partial water changes every other day and then this crept up.
 
dorkfish said:
I don't think it's ick, but it looks like it might be fungus.did the fish get any injurys in that area? If so, that would make it really suseptible to fungus.
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I'm not sure if she sustained an injury or not when I was changing the substrate. It was extremely cloudy and took several hours to settle.

Ok, I added one dose of Maracide yesterday. Assuming this is a fungus and not ick should I do a water change and then use a fungus medication instead or should I continue with the last 2 doses of the Maracide and then see what happens?
 
The bottle should have instructions right on the back.

When I used quick cure, it told me to do water changes daily and just dose the water that you put in, but if you are using meds, make sure you take any carbon out of your filter or it will just filter the meds right out of the water.
 
Try using Aquari-Sol... I used it to cure Ick and it does "not" turn the water blue or your seals blue.. It's made up of Soluble Copper Salts. I also keep my water temp at 82-85 degrees (recommended for treatment also) and from time to time use "non" Iodide Salt (filling up a clear cup with it almost to the top, usually what bettas come in). Never had a fish desease in a very long time since using these techniques.
 
darrincan said:
Try using Aquari-Sol... I used it to cure Ick and it does "not" turn the water blue or your seals blue.. It's made up of Soluble Copper Salts. I also keep my water temp at 82-85 degrees (recommended for treatment also) and from time to time use "non" Iodide Salt (filling up a clear cup with it almost to the top, usually what bettas come in). Never had a fish desease in a very long time since using these techniques.
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Please do not reccommend to people that they put copper in their tanks. Copper is toxic to all forms of life, especially invertebrates, and there is no way to effectively remove it from the tank.

It will bond on the molecular level with silcone, tank decorations and just above everything else you have in the tank.

The main ingredient in AquariSol is Zycosin (soluble copper salts).

Here's a post on here from the Skeptical Aquarist:

"Of the people recommending or disrecommending AquariSol, how many have noticed the active ingredient is "zycosin?" What percent of those people did a brief www.google.com search: "zycosin?"

The following gem of zycosin information/gossip definitely warmed my skeptical heart!
http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/unsubstantiated.htm

"silver? copper? ah, whatever! we'll still call it "zycosin!"

I wonder whether people who found Aquari-Sol didn't work for them were using dechlorinators that have conditioners included? "A little extra dechlorinator never hurts!" Do you see what some extra chelator molecules dissolved in the water might do to "zycosin?"

Is everyone aware of the pH dependence of copper toxicity? What happens, after you've used a whole bottle (!!!) when your pH drops six weeks from now, from whatever causes? Mysterious toxicity, eh?

All this talk of brand-names, and so little mention of ingredients. It's the ingredients that are important..."​
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=58852&postcount=7

Read the response from Kordon at the link he provided. That's pretty scary stuff.

FWIW, always research medications before you add them to your tank. I highly advise you to stop using AquariSol. There are better and less toxic ways to medicate for various illnesses and parasites.

Roan
 
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