Some people are too lazy to read. Some people think they are smarter and more knowledgeable than the Patent offices in multiple countries.
Some people want to argue against granted patent in effect for many years. They want to deny the simple facts in front of them.
Some people lack even a a small amount of sense of common sense. they will deny what is right in front of their own eyes.No matter how much incontrovertible evidence you show them.
To quote the grateful dead: "Got two good eyes But we still don't see"
13 patents and they are all illegal. Are you kidding me? If they were not legit why has nobody in the entire industry challenged the patent of ot os sp clearly not legal. And the start of the patent process getting things to where they are today was over 20 years ago.
Three seminal peer reviewed papers cited by hundreds of other researchers. I guess all of them are wrong too. How are they doing it?
So I wonder where the loach got his doctorate or at least a masters degree in microbiology? I wonder where I can find any peer reviewed papers he has published. Or maybe I am barking up the wrong tree and the loach is an attorney with expertise in patent law? Or maybe the real truth is that he has no clue and what he is saying and not saying indicate this.
So I have presented papers, patents and other evidence in support of what I have said. What has the loach produced except for his personal opinion of how things work but with no support in any form. All he does is to keep claiming all of my evidence is somehow not valid or are illegal patents or anything but disproven. The one thing of which I am certain is I would bet dollars to donuts he has not read through any of the papers or patents.
I can bring this from more angles that some folks even new existed. So lets look at some of the classifications for The patents here. The patent office has classifications which relate to patents. What classifications are there for the ammonia oxidizing bacteria Dr. Hovanec patented. There are 11 of them but here are just a few. These classifications are not unique to Dr. Hovenec's work, they are there to be used by anybody. You can see all of them here: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040157313A1/en?inventor=t+hovanec&oq=t+hovanec
C12N1/20 - Bacteria; Culture media therefor
Media compositions for bacteria, compositions comprising bacteria (with or without other compounds), processes of isolating, maintaining or propagating bacteria.
C12N9/0012 - Oxidoreductases (1.) acting on nitrogen containing compounds as donors (1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.7)
C02F3/34 - Biological treatment of water, waste water, or sewage characterised by the microorganisms used
Biological treatment processes using special types of microorganisms (specific species or consortia which are identified and not commonly used).
C12R1/01 - Processes using microorganisms using bacteria or actinomycetales
I will offer readers with one more piece of evidence that only requires common sense to understand. Let's assume that the loach is right and the patents are not legal. How could Spectrum accept assignment of them? Surely their legal department would have caught their being illegal. Yet 4 subsidiaries of their pet division have created products which are based on the patents. Combine this with the fact that we know no other companies have a product on the market which states it contains the patented bacteria and that rely on the related processes and probes etc.
Spectrum Brands and Dr. Hovanec and their lawyers all believe the patents are valid. Clearly companies like SeaChem, Fluval. API. Fritz and a host of others appear to respect these patents as well. But the loach assures us they are not legal???????
So on one side of this the standing alone is the loach. On the other side is an array of patent offices around the world, the people andcompanies who are using the patents they control and a host of companies in the industry and their lawyers who will not violate them.
I am sorry, but this all leaves me rolling on the floor laughing my ass off. I will leave folks with this from the 1742 poem "Ode on a Distant Prospect of Eton College," by Thomas Gray.:
where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise
proverb It is better to remain unaware or ignorant of things that may otherwise cause one stress; if you don't know about something, you don't need to worry about it.
From https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Where+ignorance+is+bliss,+'tis+folly+to+be+wise
I can lead a horse to water, but......
Some people want to argue against granted patent in effect for many years. They want to deny the simple facts in front of them.
Some people lack even a a small amount of sense of common sense. they will deny what is right in front of their own eyes.No matter how much incontrovertible evidence you show them.
To quote the grateful dead: "Got two good eyes But we still don't see"
13 patents and they are all illegal. Are you kidding me? If they were not legit why has nobody in the entire industry challenged the patent of ot os sp clearly not legal. And the start of the patent process getting things to where they are today was over 20 years ago.
Three seminal peer reviewed papers cited by hundreds of other researchers. I guess all of them are wrong too. How are they doing it?
So I wonder where the loach got his doctorate or at least a masters degree in microbiology? I wonder where I can find any peer reviewed papers he has published. Or maybe I am barking up the wrong tree and the loach is an attorney with expertise in patent law? Or maybe the real truth is that he has no clue and what he is saying and not saying indicate this.
So I have presented papers, patents and other evidence in support of what I have said. What has the loach produced except for his personal opinion of how things work but with no support in any form. All he does is to keep claiming all of my evidence is somehow not valid or are illegal patents or anything but disproven. The one thing of which I am certain is I would bet dollars to donuts he has not read through any of the papers or patents.
I can bring this from more angles that some folks even new existed. So lets look at some of the classifications for The patents here. The patent office has classifications which relate to patents. What classifications are there for the ammonia oxidizing bacteria Dr. Hovanec patented. There are 11 of them but here are just a few. These classifications are not unique to Dr. Hovenec's work, they are there to be used by anybody. You can see all of them here: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040157313A1/en?inventor=t+hovanec&oq=t+hovanec
C12N1/20 - Bacteria; Culture media therefor
Media compositions for bacteria, compositions comprising bacteria (with or without other compounds), processes of isolating, maintaining or propagating bacteria.
C12N9/0012 - Oxidoreductases (1.) acting on nitrogen containing compounds as donors (1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.7)
C02F3/34 - Biological treatment of water, waste water, or sewage characterised by the microorganisms used
Biological treatment processes using special types of microorganisms (specific species or consortia which are identified and not commonly used).
C12R1/01 - Processes using microorganisms using bacteria or actinomycetales
I will offer readers with one more piece of evidence that only requires common sense to understand. Let's assume that the loach is right and the patents are not legal. How could Spectrum accept assignment of them? Surely their legal department would have caught their being illegal. Yet 4 subsidiaries of their pet division have created products which are based on the patents. Combine this with the fact that we know no other companies have a product on the market which states it contains the patented bacteria and that rely on the related processes and probes etc.
Spectrum Brands and Dr. Hovanec and their lawyers all believe the patents are valid. Clearly companies like SeaChem, Fluval. API. Fritz and a host of others appear to respect these patents as well. But the loach assures us they are not legal???????
So on one side of this the standing alone is the loach. On the other side is an array of patent offices around the world, the people andcompanies who are using the patents they control and a host of companies in the industry and their lawyers who will not violate them.
I am sorry, but this all leaves me rolling on the floor laughing my ass off. I will leave folks with this from the 1742 poem "Ode on a Distant Prospect of Eton College," by Thomas Gray.:
where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise
proverb It is better to remain unaware or ignorant of things that may otherwise cause one stress; if you don't know about something, you don't need to worry about it.
From https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Where+ignorance+is+bliss,+'tis+folly+to+be+wise
I can lead a horse to water, but......