Desperate in need of help before I throw in the towel - Amonia issues!

Tests showing more progress on cycle and still seems to be progressing as expected.

Now on this Kh Gh, and ph business. You have a soft water source without a lot of buffering, which is why you are seeing the variance from the tap. The good news is that it is easier to add something to help this than it is to deal with liquid rock hard water. One question before I continue, your water supply isn't being run through a water softener system is it? The reason being is that softened water is higher in total dissolved solids (tds) and missing minerals that both your fish and plants need.

Let me first reassure you, Fish don't pay much attention to gh or kh, and only slightly notice ph within reason. The more important measure for fish is tds, which is the total of all dissolved matter, which includes gh, but also includes organic matter you can't completely test for. Once your tank is cycled nitrate does a reasonable job of standing in for what you can't test for since as nitrate rises so does the other organics you can't test for. Anyway to finish the explanation fish deal with osmotic pressure, and tds affects that. One reason regular water changes are important is that it keeps tank tds closer to your source's so when you do change water the resultant lowering of tds in the tank is a small enough change that the fish can deal with it without stress.

Now normally most of your gh and kh readings are calcium and magnesium based, with rare exception. Both of these minerals are used by plants and livestock which is why your tank tests less than the tap tests. For the short term your frequent water changes restock the various minerals used by your growing plants. But once your tank is more stable it will be easier to "feed" your plants by adding the things they need to the water column. There are other systems of managing how plants are fed, but this linked method works.

http://www.barrreport.com/forum/bar...ndex/2938-ei-light-for-those-less-techy-folks

Ph 7 is neutral and ranges close to that are not much of an issue including your 6.4 reading. Now since your water is so soft you might be more comfortable getting something to buffer the ph, like that gh booster that link mentions, to slightly alkaline 7.2-7.6. But those numbers are just for example, if you later decide to get high tech and really go after growing plants you might be adding CO2 for a carbon source and the target level for that would drop your ph by one log, ie from 7.6 to 6.6 or 7.2 to 6.2 which is expected and no problem.

Here is a series of posts on water chemistry as relates to fish keeping. It could explain some of your test readings to you better than I am able to since the guy that wrote that is a chemist and I am not ;) .
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?85207-Water-Chemistry
 
Oh, Now that you have better readings on both ammonia and nitrite the next portion of the cycle process is to get it to grow to the point you can feed regularly. Because the waste production is small if you are not feeding the tank your waste breakdown capacity has reached low levels, and is a good start since the colonies of bacteria have gotten a toe hold to grow from, but more time and growth is needed to reach normal feeding capacity. This means several more weeks of water changes and monitoring. Hang in there, it does get better.

Oh, one possible way to give the process a boost is to obtain some mulm from an established tank and add that to yours. This in effect inoculates your tank with a bigger colony of the bacteria. I would only do this though if you have a source you have reasonable faith is disease free and has been stable for a bit.
 
Appreciate all the help.
This morning read 36 hours after last water change -
PH STILL LOW AROUND - 6.1
Ammonia - .1/.2
NITRITE 0
Nitrate 5
Will do another 50% WC NOW
 
if you are using softened water:

there is a seachem buffer that sets water to 7.0
i use that with my RO water and it has worked well.

my plants didn't do great in water that came from a softener.

another person i know has a tank, they were also using water from a softener, the plants didn't do well until he started adding seachem replenish to the softened water as he didn't have RO water option.

for example, Val and sag grew but it was nearly transparent, and it was sickly, after adding back minerals from seachem product, they became green and healthy looking

fish didn't seem to care as mentioned above.
 
oh and on the API test kit, those are what i use too, and i take the readings with a grain of salt.

ammonia and nitrite are reliable, but the others, the colors are just TOOOO close to get a good reading.
they also KEEP changing so i suggest setting a timer and letting them react for the recommended time in the instructions. i do that for the nitrate test
 
50 % WC last night -
This morning -
NITRITE - 0
AMMONIA - 0.25
PH 6 can't get it up?
Nitrate 5
 
KH STILL VERY LOW at 17.9 - 1 drop turns yellow
GH. Also seems low at 53 - 3 drops before it goes really green.

I'm adding prime on WC, very small
 
Adding very small amount of SANITAL aquarium salt & some flourish. In regards to the PH & GH / KH how can I get these up without dumping chemicals into the tank.? I feel I'm close on the other reads.
 
http://www.aquariumfertilizer.com/index.asp?Option1=cats&Edit=2&EditU=1&Regit=2

Sorry when I said soft water is easier to deal with than hard water I meant that it is cheaper to change it's characteristics. Minerals are the basis of water buffering and ph control and appropriate ones can be purchased at that site. You might be able to find something like what is offered there locally, but if not they do ship worldwide. Those 1 pound packages would last you a while, so it is quite economical for getting your parameters a bit more stable. Personally I'd get the Barr's gh booster and Dolomite as that would allow you to raise the gh a little and supply important plant nutrients that way and raise your ph to slightly alkaline.

Of course you could just embrace your soft water and turn your focus to fish that need that slightly acidic water you are seeing in your tank to thrive if you don't want to mess with that.
 
We have had guppies but I assume the low PH is not suitable. Can you suggest any fish that like this low PH? I've almost given up at getting the PH UP to 7+
 
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