do plants during fishless cycle help?

I've tried using a little ring of crushed coral around my desk as a buffer against doing dumb things. Maybe I need to add some water :rolleyes: …

I just thought I'd add the links to Chuck's site, an excellent resource for Planted folks and to the Silent Cycle in particular.
 
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I've tried using a little ring of crushed coral around my desk as a buffer against doing dumb things. Maybe I need to add some water :rolleyes: …
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Best laugh of the day. 'Course I had to recount the whole exchange to my spouse to explain what I was hooting at.
 
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But the things I do understand I tend to have worked on and researched and tested enough to have some depth of understanding of the principles involved.
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I have the utmost respect for your knowledge and experience, I hope you didn't take my comment and bowing as mocking for it was quite sincere.

I read a lot, but only actually know a little, so I keep that in my tagline (over to the left under my name). I do not have vast experience and I am quick to bow to those who do.

Anona, always learning
 
Best laugh of the day.
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Ditto to that,

I have the utmost respect for your knowledge and experience, I hope you didn't take my comment and bowing as mocking for it was quite sincere.
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anonapersona, I wasn't sure if you comments were sincere or sarcatic either, but I gave you the benifit of the doubt I try to never assume the worst because it takes too much energy. I am constantly amazed at the information that I have found on this site in 3 months, and when it's applied to my experience It makes me wonder how any of my fish lived through things in the old days. It does tend to make one feel like bowing to a few folks around here now and then.
 
AquaSource?

I first read RTR's work on Toms'Place boards, there was a library of articles there, many by RTR and a few by Tom Griffin, those are the only names I recall now, and that was one of the original sites that I learned about fish from.

I've only been keeping fish (indoor fish not pond fish) for about 20 months now and because of that source and the other things I've found online I went from several years of slowly killing pond fish with old decayed fish food to now having about 300 gallons in 6 active tanks inside, 5 of them planted, 3 of those lushly planted.

There were two articles that I was most fond of, one by RTR, the other by Tom Griffin, both about how to stock a tank as a species tank and avoid the Noah's Ark syndrome of collecting 2 of each type of fish. The articles there about filtration, I think those were mostly by RTR, were excellent and I am so sorry that I cannot now find those links. The Aquasource library seems to be gone.

Because of those articles, I do sort of put RTR on a pedestal, along with Tom Barr and Roger Miller and a select few other folks. When I wrote that and put in the little bowing guy, it vaguely crossed my mind that I might need a smiley in there too, but I shrugged it off, thinking the little bowing guy was enough.
 
I am so sorry that I cannot now find those links. The Aquasource library seems to be gone.
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Boy do I have a deal for you!, I could never find the articles by going through the front door at Tom's Place, but I did link to it through one of RTR's articles that he sent me to. so anyhow try this Archives at Tom's Place
I also put that link on the newbie sticky for helpfull links. There seems to be an un-ending supply of good info in those articles.
HTH
 
No, anonapersona, I did not at all take the little bowing gif as sarcastic - which is exactly what worried me. :o I do know some things in depth, have a lot of experience with certain things, but I just wanted to stress that infallibility has not happened, and unfortunately is unlikely to do so. And also that everybody pull stupid boners at times, no matter what their knowledge or experience level.

The Archives and articles (includes all those not in the old "Archive" URL) at Tom's Place are under re-work as we speak and will be opened soon and once more accessible - much better than the old incomplete archives. Not all at once, but bit by bit there will be new articles as well, with pictures finally! I have been wanting to offer pictures for a long time, and finally can.

Some of my "new" stuff will be controversial - but so was a good bit of the old stuff when published. Making folks think is part of the object of the exercise. But I am looking forward to it.
 
Originally posted by RTR
The Archives and articles (includes all those not in the old "Archive" URL) at Tom's Place are under re-work as we speak and will be opened soon and once more accessible - much better than the old incomplete archives. Not all at once, but bit by bit there will be new articles as well, with pictures finally! I have been wanting to offer pictures for a long time, and finally can.

Some of my "new" stuff will be controversial - but so was a good bit of the old stuff when published. Making folks think is part of the object of the exercise. But I am looking forward to it.
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I LOVE that this hobby requires thinking!

I love being able to look on as the guys with tons of knowledge and experience bounce around new ideas.

I love that the guys that I put on pedestals don't always agree. And that they can disagree without resorting to name-calling is very cool, when it happens, as it usually does here.

I am very much looking forward to the new articles and the potentially controversial points of view.
 
LOL! Well, you are in the right hobby. :D

You should have been around when Chris published fishless in an accessible form at Tom's Place. When the second string (including me) started pushing it on the baords, the flamethrowers were out in force.

My salt article met the same resistance, the anternate canister technique ditto, and the UG/RFUG/OE-RFUG still causes indigestion.

Just as a teaser, comming soon to a familiar (I hope!) web site - FW plenums (emphasis on planted plenums), Planted RFUG - a few months off on that one, Circulating range for medium tanks, multiple FW Invert articles, and a scattering of technical/philosophical articles that I cannot resist doing sometimes.
 
And a Mattenfilter?

I do hope someone will do an article on the Mattenfilter. That ought to be in the new archive or posted again somehow, it is not available in the normal archives.

I thought that rather cool and I wonder if it could help grow good discus without the massive waterchanges. There were some rought calculations that I recall from that about flow and filter size that I'm sure are important.
 
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