EHEIM CLASSIC 2215 or EHEIM ECCO 2236
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the whole priming thing is a great feature but unless ur break the syphon everytime, its almost a one time deal, nothing to get your knickers in a bunch over. personally, i find simplcity a great thing sometimes and this is one of those situations where i stand by it. the more expensive eheims like the ones with a thermometer built in are very costly to fix and although the thermoeter is hidden, maintainence can get expensive very quickly, not worth the extra cost of the filter IMO.
You can never go wrong with an Eheim. Which are you getting? I run an ECCO on my planted 29g and love it!
CWO4GUNNER
USN/USCG 1974-2004 Weps
This is good I leaned a little more from this thread about Eheims. I too am a partial to the Magnum, mostly due to its drum style circumference filtering design which give it a huge by comparison to stacked filters. This is why compared to filters of the same size the Magnum has proven its ability to handle much larger aquariums up to 100 gallons. I have one on my 120 and it cleans crystal clear. The magnum is a little harder to assemble out of the box because you measure and cut the thick and large 3/4 hoses which are much more kink resistant and pass much more water then the competition. The Magnum requires attention to detail to place the canister lid O-ring in position on the side of the canister lid rather then on top or bottom like the competition. This side O-ring designed sandwiched between the canister and lid makes water leaks almost impossible from either negative or positive pressure, whereas top only or bottom only O-ring lid to canister designed O-ring seals have a tendency to go flat and leak over time and are much more susceptible to either negative or positive overpressure. Although the carbon basket with only 3 cup capacity limits the amount of granular media you can use, its drum design provides a much larger surface area for high filtration with low demand on the pump. The same goes for the outer layers of circumference filtering media whether it be blue bio blanket or poly blanket or both, the Magnum is able to pull much more water through finer medias at a higher rate because of its comparably huge circular foot print in comparison to a restrictive stacked filter with a 4x smaller footprint. The magnum was designed just like high capacity pool and pond filters and that is why pound per pound most comparable stacked media filters cant compete with the Magnum when it come to filtering capacity. The Magnum was designed 20 years ago around the concept of simplicity, durability, maximum capacity and effective filtration design, not trendy filter media resales and parts replacement IMO.
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^^^^I'm not sure what your trying to prove here, I see you post about the Magnums quite a bit, I get that you REALLY like them
and I agree that the mechanical filtering of the Mag is outstanding but it cannot hold a candle to the quality of Eheim cans, I own both and I can tell the difference. The Mag is an excellent "quick polish" filter but I would not run this on a tank by itself without the bio-wheel. I don't run bio-wheels because I inject co2, therefore I needed a nice can that I can run mech and bio without the worry. I'm glad I went with Eheim the quality is unmatched, even the ecco line is high quality IMO.I have had a bunch of different cans Fluval, Jebo,Marineland C and nothing comes close to Eheim IMO. I used to clean my Mag 350 every two to three weeks! and forget the polishing cylinder, it does a great job but can only be used a few day's. I get 6-8 months of filtering on my heavily planted tank before I have to clean my Eheims.
Just my 2 cents
and I agree that the mechanical filtering of the Mag is outstanding but it cannot hold a candle to the quality of Eheim cans, I own both and I can tell the difference. The Mag is an excellent "quick polish" filter but I would not run this on a tank by itself without the bio-wheel. I don't run bio-wheels because I inject co2, therefore I needed a nice can that I can run mech and bio without the worry. I'm glad I went with Eheim the quality is unmatched, even the ecco line is high quality IMO.I have had a bunch of different cans Fluval, Jebo,Marineland C and nothing comes close to Eheim IMO. I used to clean my Mag 350 every two to three weeks! and forget the polishing cylinder, it does a great job but can only be used a few day's. I get 6-8 months of filtering on my heavily planted tank before I have to clean my Eheims. Just my 2 cents
CWO4GUNNER
USN/USCG 1974-2004 Weps
^^^^I'm not sure what your trying to prove here, I see you post about the Magnums quite a bit, I get that you REALLY like them
7-8 months between cleaning is a long time congrats. My DIY canister is a vertical stack filter as I had no choice and guess Ill have a chance to see if it last that long between cleanings. However I still think you get far more effective surface area filtering from a large circumference filter then a stacked media filter, which I incidentally hope to be my next DIY project, inspired by pond & pool style filters which are not stacked.
I agree with Motto. I have both types. I use my Magnum Hot Shot for Vaccuming the gravel and polishing the disturbed water only. Eheim 2215 is rated for up to 90 gal (can never have enough filtation), which may account for the longer periods between cleaning. The only thing that will shorten the service cycle is the use of the fine polishing filter media, which I don't use. With the proper medium the stacked filter has a huge surface area and with the Eheim the water flows from bottom to top with no room for by-pass (complete filtration). Fluval 203 valves and hoses, spray bar and intake screen fit Eheim 2213 & 2215. The only concerns I have with the Eheim is that the bottom intake elbow/piping seem to me to be volnerable to breakage due to bumps or any kind of torc (poor design IMO). I also, find the main "O" ring a pain to seat properly on the first attempt.
