Empty Tank need ideas

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I have an 86 gallon aquarium that is presently empty, and I had for years kept fancy goldfish in this tank, with a very large wet/dry filter, and an aquaclear 500.

I found the wet/dry to be a bit of a pain, not because of any maintenance required, but rather, because I bought the wrong sort of siphon overflow, where there was more danger of the siphon being broken. Now I'm thinking of either buying a different sort of siphon overflow box, or just scrapping it altogether and getting another aquaclear 500, so that I'll have as much filtration as possible for this tank, since I believe that it allows me to the luxury of doing fewer water changes. With goldfish, and they being cold water fish, I was able to just run tap water directly in, with the chlorine remover just added to the tank. It seemed to work fine for many years, and greatly simplified the changing of 25% of the water on a tank of this size.

But now I'd sort of like to trying a different sort of a fish, and I was thinking of tropical fish, specifically either Angel fish, or Oscars. I don't know very much about either fish, except perhaps that I need to heat the water now.

My wet/dry filter was HUGE, so I'm sort of reluctant to get another aquaclear and just rely on the 2 of those, since I was used to pretty darn nice water quality even with some big dirty goldfish. But I'm open to suggestion.

My question here is mainly from keepers of Angel fish. What sorts of things will I need to do to keep these fish comfortable, and what would I need to do to breed these fish? Or, how many Oscars would I be able to keep in an 86 gallon tank. If the answer is just 2 or so, that would be fine, since I have no great desire to put a lot of biological stress on my tank.

That's about it for now. Right now, I need to get another glass top made, so I wont' be able to start until I get that finished, but in the next few weeks, I'd like to be able to make some decisions on where I should go from here with the hobby. :soda:
 
Ever looked into african cichlids from lake Malawi?

http://www.malawimayhem.com

They are beautiful fish... colorful, energetic, and full of personality. ;)

I'm sure you could keep 2 oscars in the 86 gallon for quite some time, but they do get BIG, and would be best to have them in a larger tank when they reach thier full size. 2 oscars would be quite a heavy load though since they are very messy fish.

Angels are also very nice and do best in planted tanks, with maybe a school of tetras and some bottom feeders.

Its best to pick a fish you like, and then form the tank around them. Everything from substrate and decor to heating and lighting varies for different types of fish.


-Diana
 
im my 86g i hav african cichlids from lake Malawi there so cool ~*LuvMyKribs*~ is right only keep fish you like so then you cannot get bored and anyways malawis are really active and breed easily. if i was you, of which im not i would go for malawis.
 
Thanks for the Suggestion

Thanks for the suggestion about the African Cichlids from Malawi. It seems that there are quite a few, and that's the problem that I face there, I'm not sure which ones are which. I know that Angel fish are some sort of Cichlids too, but it seems that when people refer to the African Cichlids from Lake Malawi, that they are referring to differents sorts of fish. But they do look nice, and I think that it is a good idea.

How big do these fish get? :dance
 
There are thousands of Lake Malawi cichlids. There are a about a hundred i would say that are readily available in the aquarium trade. Did you take a look at that site i posted? You should have a look through the species profiles, and maybe do a google search, and find some that you like. some common ones are:

yellow lab
saulosi and other pseudotropheus
afra
melanochromis
zebra and other maylandia
aulonocara (peacocks)
fryeri

ahhh the list goes on! There are also different varients for some of those fish. I reccommend you go to a few local LFS's and check out what they have in stock. Bring a pen and paper to write down the names of the fish they have listed, then come back home and check them out on the interent. Sometimes fish look a LOT different when they get older. Also you need to check out aggressivness and compatability between species.

But once you get your tank stocked you will love it! You can get close to 30 fish in a 86 gallon, depending on the size. I would say most fish you will be getting will be under 6" max. Mbuna dont usually get that big. Haps are less common and get much larger, but peacocks, which are haps, stay smaller at about 4-5". :D
-Diana
 
Hi Diana,
Yeah, I see what you mean. I went to that website as well as others, and I've learned that these are very interesting fish. I bought a second aquaclear 500, as well as a heater for my tank. As soon as I get some more glass for a better fitting top I'll fill the tank, probably next Saturday, and then I'll start cyclying the filters to get things going.
 
On your origional thread enquiring about Angels and Oscars, yes you could keep two Oscars in that size tank quite happily, some considerations are, they are very messy eaters and I would suggest a plec or some other bottom feeder to clean up after them, plus you will have to be very vigilent on water changes, plus they are tank busters and will headbutt things, In particular heaters and rockwork 'in their way' its not uncommon for a heater to be smashed by an oscar killing it. so arrange a tank with care!
As for Angels, they can be fussy with water requirements and idealy you need quite soft water, do you know the PH of your water? its always best to work with the water you have and not play about with adjusting ph, its diffucult and temprimental to maintain an artificial ph. if your water is soft, great go for Angels maybee 4 in a tank that size and a good size school of tetras or other small fish (not neons, they will get eaten)
Or alternatively if you have hard water then you are an ideal candidate for Africans!
So my advice is check out your ph and come back to us.
 
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