Slip, can you tell me where I can easily research that (macro)and find some definite scientific answers? Why do you claim it as fact? 
Evolution vs. Creation
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So where were humans 100 million years ago?
There were none on this planet.
Lots of dinosaurs though.
And why do we share 98% of our DNA with chimps? Coincidence?
Watcher: So where were humans 100 million years ago?There were none on this planet.Lots of dinosaurs though.
answer: Animals were created before people.
Watcher:And why do we share 98% of our DNA with chimps? Coincidence?
my answer: (right offhand - your point?) Is that the "junk" DNA or the real meaningful stuff - I'm not volunteering for gene therapy anytime soon
? Um, what has two eyes like a dog, a tail like an elephant, and nostrils like a horse? answer: a cow (the real point is we can find common denominators between most living things, but doesn't that just point toward creation since it'd be rather odd for ALL those living creatures to just happen to evolve with the same solutions to our environment?)
Along those lines, our Universe seems to tend towards chaos as things get bigger, and becomes more orderly as things get smaller. Just an aside. :cool2:
answer: Animals were created before people.
Watcher:And why do we share 98% of our DNA with chimps? Coincidence?
my answer: (right offhand - your point?) Is that the "junk" DNA or the real meaningful stuff - I'm not volunteering for gene therapy anytime soon
? Um, what has two eyes like a dog, a tail like an elephant, and nostrils like a horse? answer: a cow (the real point is we can find common denominators between most living things, but doesn't that just point toward creation since it'd be rather odd for ALL those living creatures to just happen to evolve with the same solutions to our environment?)Along those lines, our Universe seems to tend towards chaos as things get bigger, and becomes more orderly as things get smaller. Just an aside. :cool2:
Dog, elephant, horse, cow. All mammals. They also all have hair, are warm blooded, and produce milk for their young. As do humans.
That points toward a common ancestor. A common ancestor that evolved hair, was warm blooded, produced milk for their young, and then it's descendents evolved into all the different mammals that are in existence today.
So God was creating plants and animals billions of years ago, and only got around to creating humans around 2-4 million years ago?
So what is He going to create next?
Or did he stop with us?
Plus, if we are created in His likeness, isn't a lowly animal like a monkey a mockery of God's likeness?
They are 98% exactly like us, so therefore his likeness with that reasoning.
That points toward a common ancestor. A common ancestor that evolved hair, was warm blooded, produced milk for their young, and then it's descendents evolved into all the different mammals that are in existence today.
So God was creating plants and animals billions of years ago, and only got around to creating humans around 2-4 million years ago?
So what is He going to create next?
Or did he stop with us?
Plus, if we are created in His likeness, isn't a lowly animal like a monkey a mockery of God's likeness?
They are 98% exactly like us, so therefore his likeness with that reasoning.
This topic is like a magnet to me, it facinates me. I don't think any of the responses adequately state my opinion.
For the proponents of creationism...you sell the Lord and His infinite wisdom and ability to plan for the millenia short if you believe that he could not have set in motion the building blocks that resulted in us as we are here today. As to the interpretation of the Bible..it's been used and manipulated for years to say whatever people want it to say.
For the scientists who are the strict evolutionists..As you state, it's a theory. There is no proof how it all started. There are clues as to the evolution that has taken place, but not as to it all started.
I see room for both, but neither camp wants to give it up.
Fortunately for us all, it's a free world here and we can believe as we choose, and no one from our government will come knocking on our door to haul us away because we are not espousing the official state verion of religion. That, folks, is truely something to be thankful for. I thank God the day I was born a US citizen...altho being a Canadian would be ok too...maybe even an Aussie.
For the proponents of creationism...you sell the Lord and His infinite wisdom and ability to plan for the millenia short if you believe that he could not have set in motion the building blocks that resulted in us as we are here today. As to the interpretation of the Bible..it's been used and manipulated for years to say whatever people want it to say.
For the scientists who are the strict evolutionists..As you state, it's a theory. There is no proof how it all started. There are clues as to the evolution that has taken place, but not as to it all started.
I see room for both, but neither camp wants to give it up.
Fortunately for us all, it's a free world here and we can believe as we choose, and no one from our government will come knocking on our door to haul us away because we are not espousing the official state verion of religion. That, folks, is truely something to be thankful for. I thank God the day I was born a US citizen...altho being a Canadian would be ok too...maybe even an Aussie.
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I think our being created in His likeness/image probably refers more to our eternal soul than to our physical makeup. Just picking a nit.Watcher74 said:
flyingfish said:
All I want to say in this thread (which I think quite clearly breaks the rules), is that someone can also have psychosomatic symptoms...but that doesn't mean some divine power has caused it. It just shows the power of the human mind.
Leopardess has a point. Placebos have a real affect to help people heal.
Whether that placebo is sugar pills or prayer.
Both can have the same affect.
Whether that placebo is sugar pills or prayer.
Both can have the same affect.
Good opinion. But I also have a question about eternal souls.
We have them but monkeys do not?
Some people used to say that black people didn't have eternal souls.
Some religions, even today, say that ONLY men have them. Not women.
Those last two statements will offend 99.99% of people who read them. But some people either did or do see them as perfectly correct.
So what is to say that blacks/women(crap, any human) has a soul but monkeys don't?
Or your favorite pet?
Bigotry is a horrible thing. It justifies us using other living things as our resource. To cherish or destroy as we feel necessary.
Whether that bigotry is against another human or another animal.
Granted, there's no tangible evidence of souls. So it's really hard to argue any position about them. I personally am leaning towards the idea that somewhere along the lines of evolution, man (as we know him) became self-aware and was given a soul, and that is what Genesis 2:7 refers to. I'm not set on that interpretation, but it works for me at the moment.Watcher74 said:
