fahrenheit 9/11
- Thread starter Cheech
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During all wars at some point the soldiers involved have pretended they were somewhere else doing something else, it is a perfectly natural reaction to the horrors of war. Every soldier no matter what their nationality is guilty of this. Condemn one and you have to condemn them all. Not everyone involved is immune to the effects of war. Hence battle fatique, post tramatic stress disorders, and the nasty flashbacks some vetern's suffer from. My own grandfather would never speak of world war II in which he was involved. Only mentioned a couple of places he was at. Such as normandy, and others. I guess what I'm trying to get at is that war is he(( and it matters not to the men and women on the front lines what you think of their coping mechanicanisms. And no I not trying to slam anybody here I'm just trying to point out a disparity in thinking.
I didn't see that part of the movie as an attack- for me it sort of had the effect of "oh what are those little kids doing there?" I think, for me, the gravity of that scene was that it's always kids.
Exactly ash.... i understand that a lot of weird things happen in people's heads during war. of course it does, your killing people who have just as much a right to live as you do... and who gives you the right to do that? war does.... and only war. my grandfather wont talk about it either..... And i also understand that kids as young as 14 went to war during the 1st and 2nd world war. but those wars were a just cause.... i really dont beileve this war in iraq was just. "War on Terror". WTF? More like "war to disarm iraq" wait a minute... there was no nuclear weapons! "war for oil?" maybe. "war for power" more likely. Sure, thier governemt wasnt the best there but i dont think it was in such a dire need for the bombing of thier country and slaughter of thier civilians. Now there IS terrorism there..... terrorism against americans for being there. the longer they keep thier troops there the more of them will be killed. and for what? to keep the peace? not bloody likely.... hopefully now that FINALLY they have a new government and the americans can leave them to thier country.
I always have and always will think it was a stupid idea to bomb Iraq and give away so many young lives.
I always have and always will think it was a stupid idea to bomb Iraq and give away so many young lives.
Um i think the slaughter of millions of jews in the holocaust is a just cause.
And another point.
Greeneyedlady, "Hence battle fatique, post tramatic stress disorders, and the nasty flashbacks some vetern's suffer from. "
Yes, war veterans suffer from that. For many of them war has ruined a good part of thier life. So we've sent thousands of our young kids to war..... Now for the rest of thier lives they will suffer with the memories of what they have done. They had no choice... they were paid to do it. But it will traumatize them for years to come. Is this war in Iraq really so valid as to not only loose the lives of soilders... but infect them with mental disorders for years and years?
ps- i'm not hating on anyone.
And another point.
Greeneyedlady, "Hence battle fatique, post tramatic stress disorders, and the nasty flashbacks some vetern's suffer from. "
Yes, war veterans suffer from that. For many of them war has ruined a good part of thier life. So we've sent thousands of our young kids to war..... Now for the rest of thier lives they will suffer with the memories of what they have done. They had no choice... they were paid to do it. But it will traumatize them for years to come. Is this war in Iraq really so valid as to not only loose the lives of soilders... but infect them with mental disorders for years and years?
ps- i'm not hating on anyone.
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Good points... when you think of a human being (usually young ones) going to war, and when they come back cannot talk about it and suffer mentally for years and years... it kind of makes you wonder if what we consider "war" is meant for us to handle.
Of course, you would have to be somewhat spiritual to go down that path (meaning - did God create us to handle such burdens), but it’s a good question to ponder.
Of course, you would have to be somewhat spiritual to go down that path (meaning - did God create us to handle such burdens), but it’s a good question to ponder.
