feeding cichlids

rdomelle

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How often do you have to feed cichlids?? I have the following:

-haplo chromis moori
-aulonocara jacobfribergi
-pseudotropheus tropheus
-praecox. rainbows

Please help!
 
I usually feed my african adults once a day(maybe twice on occasion if i'm bored). I feed my juvies 2X a day and i feed my fry multiply times.

I like to feed a small amount as feeding a little isn't going to hurt your fish but feeding too much can.So i like to be cautious and only feed once as the adult fish really dont' need multiple feedings each day. IF you feed multiple times you increase the chances of over feeding and that leading to other problems.

What are you feeding them?
 
Just an FYI, light multiple feeding are fine, but any fish can and will hapilly go several days on one feeding. I travel Monday through Friday each week, and my fish get fed only once by my son during the week. I baby them on the weekends, and they get overfed a bit before my weekly vaccuming and water change. but growth is good, the fish are healthy, and most importantly my nitrates stay very low.
 
Ok, the guy at the fish store told me to feed them 3-4 times a day... I only feed them a little bit each time, and they are hungry each time, but I am guessing by all of your comments that this is WAY too much...

Mine are still little, does this make a difference???

Also, my tank is super cloudy and I do regular water changes, so does anyone know what I am doing wrong??? Maybe could overfeeding lead to extra sediment and stuff in the tank and make it cloudy????

Thanks!

Oh- to answer your question, I am feeding them flakes and shrimp pellets (altered every feeding).

I need to know what to do, cause I didnt think it would be this much work-- I am constantly having to change the water cause it is SO dirty ( never change more than 1/2 though ). HELP!!
 
IF you are having water problems definately cut down the feedings. HAve you gotten you water tested? what were teh results? Is you tank cycled?

Since you say your tank is cloudy and dirty i would check the water out and go from there. BUt i would cut down teh feeding untill you know whats going on.
 
thanks Valerie!

Unfortunately I didn't know about the advantages of NOT cleaning the filters when I took my tank over from someone else, so I am assuming that this is my problem with the dirty water. This combined with the over-feeding is definitely where I went wrong.

Now the next question is.. how do I cycle it (I have now been researching and I think it takes two weeks to get the bacteria), with the fish I have now (I know I can't have them in the tank).... and when I do cycle it (and I find a spot for the fish in the meantime), do I want these fish back, or are they going to be sick because of what they have been living in already??? I feel awful cause I am a rookie at all this, and I had no idea about the cycling etc... can anyone help with this!?!?! Thanks!
 
(I know I can't have them in the tank).... and when I do cycle it (and I find a spot for the fish in the meantime), do I want these fish back, or are they going to be sick because of what they have been living in already??? I feel awful cause I am a rookie at all this, and I had no idea about the cycling etc... can anyone help with this!?!?! Thanks!

Don't panic ( as it says on the front of the hitchhikers guide)
You can do a cycle with fish in the tank, It's not the preferred method for a lot of reasons, but it can be done with some careful attention and without harming your fish. Obviously if you have somewhere to house the fish in an estabilished tank this would be good, but isn't an absolute requirement. Given your current situation, you need to look at the best way to get through the cycle without permanent damage to your fish. Read the cycle sticky, I might even suggest that you print it and highlight important points.

First things first: Water changes are your best friend, make sure you have plenty of dechlorinator on hand, and adjust the temp of your new water to match that of the tank. It is not a bad thing to do big daily or even twice daily changes if the situation requires it.

Get test kits for ammonia and nitrite, eventually you'll want these two plus PH, Nitrate, and KH at least. but during the cycle the first
two are really the most necessary
Ammonia and nitrite are fish killers. Try to keep both below 0.5 ppm at their highest. Ammonia will show up first (probably already there) and then nitrite will start to climb after a week or so. Ammonia attacks the gills and causes permanent damage, nitrite blocks the bloods ability to cary oxygen. Keep them low through water changes, to protect your fish. The cloudiness could be many things, Ie. bacterial blooms (nothing to worry about) too much food etc. Feed very very lightly, I'd suggest whatever amount you are feeding 4 times a day feed the same amount every other day for now. Your fish will always act hungry no matter what you feed them. Clean your filter media weekly or more often until things clear up.

Aftyer the ammonia and nitrite levels stay at 0 on their own, your cycle is done (3-6 weeks depending on many factors) your concern then is keeping nitrates low through weekly water changes etc. Nitrates are not harmfull at low levels, I target 20 ppm max some people are happy with 40 ppm or below. Either way if you do regular water changes and filter media cleaning Nitrates are easy to keep low. Nitrate testing in an unplanted tank is a great indicator of maintenance. if a weekly water change keeps the level at 5 ppm then drop back to every twoo weeks, just do enough wwater changes to keep the levels low and you will be fine.
 
You guys are the best! You are so helpful!

I was told not to clean the filters and I did, that's how I got into this mess, because apparently I lost all that "good bacteria"???
Is this right?

Ok- So the only way I can keep the ammonia and nitrites down is by water changes?? Cause I feel like I change it ALL the time and it's kinda cloudy when I am done the change, and I think it will get better, but it just gets worse as time goes on!! I read on a website that to cycle the tank, I have to put in drops of ammonia (obviously when the fish aren't in there) to produce this ammonia bacteria that forms and then keep testing until the ammonia becomes 0 and then add the fish back in.
So do I go this route or do I keep them in and just change the water lots (which I had been doing) and feed less?? I feel like I am changing the water all the **** time and I can never just enjoy the fish!! My tank is sooo smelly and cloudy, so should I start from fresh again and then test the water??

In other words--any other ways to get the ammonia and nitrite down and once they are 0 are the ever a problem again??

Also, if I go away for the weekend, are you guys saying it is ok to feed them just once on friday and then not til Sunday?? (mine are tiny -just like an inch long) I just bought this automatic feeder, but do I need it cause I am only ever away for two days at a time!??!?!

What should the pH and chlorine levels be at??


Thanks!
 
Ok- So the only way I can keep the ammonia and nitrites down is by water changes?? Cause I feel like I change it ALL the time and it's kinda cloudy when I am done the change, and I think it will get better, but it just gets worse as time goes on!! I read on a website that to cycle the tank, I have to put in drops of ammonia (obviously when the fish aren't in there) to produce this ammonia bacteria that forms and then keep testing until the ammonia becomes 0 and then add the fish back in.


That's called fishless cycling. You're right that you shouldn't add ammonia while the fish are in. The fish themselves actually produce ammonia, so you can put fish in instead of adding the ammonia, but it isn't as good for the fish. I would buy ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate test kits so you can monitor the cycle. ammonia is produced by the fish. that will rise first. do water changes to keep it lower until it stops showing up. Nitrites will then show up. these can take a while to go down. After the nitrites go away, you will never have to deal with ammonia or nitrites again, only nitrates, which are removed by water changes. try to keep them <30 ppm.

Oh and I'd cut the feedings down to 1x/day until the cycle is over.
 
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