fighting cichlids

As for liking the aggression of your fish; some surgeons like the cutting involved in surgery. Jadefoodog, I've actually seen less aggression in a crowded tank. Too many fish around to focus on any individual for long. I've also found that I can feed some of the aggression away. It means more maintenance for me but sometimes works. Full bellies gives them one less thing to fight about. On the subject of live food, live black worms have been known to carry parasites. I don't feed anything live unless I grow it myself.

Mark
 
reptileguy2727 said:
fish dont really need the same variety in taste as we do
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how many years did you spend as a fish in order to come to that conclusion?

seems alot like saying "bettas dont really need space to move just put ehm in a 1.4 gallon bowl and they will be super" after all if the beta was to move around it could possibly sprain a fin.

creating a enviroment as natural as posible is out of the question. gotta have a bare bottom tank (gravel could hurt the fish or sand could choke its gills)

no ornaments either (fish could carelessly run into one and hurt itself)

well now that i look at it your way simply allowing animals to live in the wild should be considered animal cruelty . somebody call peta on everybody.
 
wesleydnunder said:
As for liking the aggression of your fish; some surgeons like the cutting involved in surgery. Jadefoodog, I've actually seen less aggression in a crowded tank. Too many fish around to focus on any individual for long. I've also found that I can feed some of the aggression away. It means more maintenance for me but sometimes works. Full bellies gives them one less thing to fight about. On the subject of live food, live black worms have been known to carry parasites. I don't feed anything live unless I grow it myself.

Mark
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so your saying in an overstocked tank theres too much stress for any reall agression to present itself? point well taken ill note that.
 
i love my cichlids and i would not want to see them harmed so after their dispute was done i would seperate them. but as far as only being violent in crowded tanks? mine are pretty violent and they are not crowded. is that unusual? also as far as our pets being an extension of our masculinity(or femininity) i dont honestly believe that is why i like them. maybe deep in my subconcious but i guess i am just amazed at the complexity of their emotions compared to that of say a guppy. my cichlids happen to love a variety of different foods. in fact if i feed em the same thing for more than 2 days they get sort of restless? thanks for your time everyone (and understanding of my bad punctuation)
 
jadefoodog said:
how many years did you spend as a fish in order to come to that conclusion?

seems alot like saying "bettas dont really need space to move just put ehm in a 1.4 gallon bowl and they will be super" after all if the beta was to move around it could possibly sprain a fin.

creating a enviroment as natural as posible is out of the question. gotta have a bare bottom tank (gravel could hurt the fish or sand could choke its gills)

no ornaments either (fish could carelessly run into one and hurt itself)

well now that i look at it your way simply allowing animals to live in the wild should be considered animal cruelty . somebody call peta on everybody.
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the only thing that made since to me in that was the first line. after thinking about it all day, yes, variety in food is a way to bring some change into their world. but there are many good foods out there, enough so that there is no need to expose aquarium fish to the risk from live food you did not breed yourself. who or what were those other comments a reply to?
 
Quote by jadefoodog "so your saying in an overstocked tank theres too much stress for any reall agression to present itself."
Read the post, dude. I didn't mention stress. Since it doesn't matter what I wrote, I guess just respond however to whatever. Remember, sarcasm in one so young is bad for the liver.

Mark
 
nah im done with your closed minded fundamentalism. if you want to turn your aquariums into "fish prisons" go for it.
 
wesleydnunder said:
Quote by jadefoodog "so your saying in an overstocked tank theres too much stress for any reall agression to present itself."
Read the post, dude. I didn't mention stress. Since it doesn't matter what I wrote, I guess just respond however to whatever. Remember, sarcasm in one so young is bad for the liver.

Mark
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you cant seriously be advocating overstocking a cichlid tank.

my first post i said that overstocking is one cause of cichlid agression theres simply not enuff territory for them to have thier own.

so you say that overstocking negates agression because theres too many to focus on one fish (would seem kinda stressfull to me.) i dont agree i think theres more agression in an overstocked tank.

overstocking a peacfull fish tank causes the fish alot of stress so a tank of agressive fish i cant possibly see as being any less stressed. not to mention the waste and polution caused by the larger fish.( i would personally be fighting for territory right next to the filter)

i advocate live foods (not feeder fish) to invoke the fishes natural predatory instinct to hunt. there are no recorded ilnesses that are transferable from incects (a large cichlids natural foods) to fish. never heard of recorded parasites either. ive heard of no recorded illnesses from eathworms to fish either. although there may be some parasites that have been overlooked. but life is not without risk in itself, but risk makes life worth living (why else would they make amusement parks). essemtially if you feed the fish the same thing every day its kinda like forcing it to be a monk (and we all know we couldnt fill that role) so forcing it on something else in itself would be a form of abuse.

but all in all its your tank you do what you want. and ill do the same.
 
Let's define overstocking. I think you're reading things into what I'm writing that aren't there. Since this is going no where, have a nice day.

Mark
 
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