Fin Rot and cloudy water

that is their slime coat reacting to the ammonia and nitrite in the water. they are making additional slime coat to protect themselves.

daily large water changes with Prime will help that go away.
 
okay, i was worried it was fungus.
the one smaller fish has started nipping at the one big one. they never bothered each other before but i guess its also from the stress and not being fed in 2-3 days? I will feed them tomorrow morning...
 
sigh, so i lost one yesterday morning, Flipsy my biggest one (he always had a swim bladder problem, prob because of his shape).
It was weird tho because he had a bit of fin rot going on but Flipsy was always swimming around normal while the others were laying at the bottom of the tank, He seemed to be the least affected by the water condition. Later when they were all swimming around again, the one goldie started picking on him but i only noticed it like once and then fed them and they stopped. a Few days later he was upside down again and i thought it was from the food the last time i fed him (he normally gets flipped after 1 bite of food). The next day i looked and he was still upside down but all of his fins and tail were gone! I later noticed that day that the others were biting at him constantly So i took him out of the tank asap and him in the only good clean large container i could find (moms crystal punch bowl that we never use ^_^" hehe). It held like 2.5 gallons. i did about 2 gals tank water and 1/2 gal fresh bottled water (i did a cup of water change twice and added bout a teaspoon of salt). I kept it covered with a thin piece of cloth as to not scare him (this was at 5pm monday) and by noon tuesday he was dead :(. I didnt think the separating him would save him but i wanted to keep the others from attacking him :'( I had to bury him in the backyard cuz he was big (the size of my palm) even without the tail. I never realized he was so big. Im sad my FLipsy's gone
 
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I continued with the 50% water change for a week and only fed them bout every 3 days during that time. I treated the water with prime and added aquarium salt and melafix. Then they started swimming around but the water got cloudy again but they didnt seem to mind. Im currently doing about a 30% water change every 3 days.

I been testing the water and been getting consistent readings:
Ammonia ~0.25 (maybe less but not at 0)
Nitrate between 0 - 20
Nitrite = 0
ph = 7
and the water is very hard

my ryukin (full orange with looong beautiful tail) seems to have a bit of black on the tips of his tail (tiny) and a tip of 1 fin (tiny)
He did have fin rot in the begining but it stopped and now its black. I dunno if its healing or a sign of worsening fin rot?
Any advice of what i should do for that?
Any advice on treating the cloudy water?
 
black edges to fins tells me the ammonia in the water is really affecting them. even 0.25 ppm is toxic, and you should be doing large daily water changes if it is anything but zero. 30% every few days just isn't enough.

i personally wouldn't add anything but Prime to your tank. i always employ the KISS (keep it simple stupid) method, and only medicate when i know exactly what is going on and what medication to use.

go back to daily water changes. don't clean your filter unless the flow is reducing significantly. you need to allow the bacteria to build up.

what is most concerning is the tank size and the size/species of fish. you simply do not have enough tank for those fish, and your bacteria is struggling to keep up to the bioload the fish are putting out. that is why you keep getting cloudy water. when your fish were smaller, they were not putting out as much bioload, and now, a year later, they are bigger and creating more waste. time to get a larger tank and also think about upgrading your filtration. i don't think you ever said what brand/size of filters you had, just that they were 95 gal per hour.
 
Bettafishmommy is giving you the correct advice. Your tank water is too high in ammonia, do not rely on the test strips as they are inaccurate. Don't listen to what the pet store employees are telling you, they are killing your fish. You need to be doing DAILY water changes until you get his under control or all your fish are going to die. :(

I also suspect your tank is too small. How large is it?
 
finsNfur, it is a 35 gallon with 3 ryukins in it (used to be 4 before the one died on june 5). fish sizes range from 3 to 5 inches.
 
Thanks, I must have missed that. That size tank definitely isn't big enough for 3 goldfish, the OP will need to upgrade, the sooner the better. Goldfish grow quickly. The blackness on the tail is a sure sign of ammonia poisoning. I'd keep doing daily water changes, very important, and would not add any more salt. That can aggravate the fish if used long-term, and they are stressed enough as it is. Clean water free from ammonia and nitrates is the best medicine. I wish the OP lots of luck, and hope we get a happier update. :)
 
sorry i didnt get any notifications that anyone commented on my thread.
Yeah 35 gallon with 3 goldfish all about 3-4 inches with 2 HOB filters (topfin 40 came with the tank and added aqueon 55). Parents wont let me get a bigger tank in the house (I originally bought the tank for tropical fish and was totally not prepared when i got them and then ended up giving them all away after a few months, my dad then went and bout 5 goldfish for it >_<). The water parameters have gone down.... ammonia nitrates and nitrites all 0. Im still doing water changes every other day, cloudy water has gone down (still there a bit) and the black marks on the long tailed ryukin has gone away.
But i have noticed that the smallest fish has started relentlessly nipping the tail of the largest one with the longest tail (2 have short tails (rocky and momo) and are about 3 inches and the 1 is bigger with long tail (Tweedle). The smallest one (Rocky) has been nipping off tweedles tail. I've started feeding them regularly again (API sinking goldfish pellets) but im looking at the tank now and Rocky chasing around tweedle...... is there any way to change this behavior? I've had them a year and half now and they have never done this before.
 
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