Finally tiger barb breedng success

Wow, what an amazing thread! You've done the best job possible with this, everything is covered. What are you going to do with all of the baby barbs? You're going to have hundreds of them :eek:

It seems to me you should try another species sometimes. You deffinately seem good at breeding fish. :)
 
Wow OK lots of good questions and interest. First off, yes I think the barbs posted in pictures are probably carrying eggs. The easiest thing to do is give my steps a try and see if they produce. The first pic (SY229) you see my point about the dorsal color being hard to go by. Thats probably a female with great dorsal color. Chuck....I also have some females that seem to be endlessly bloated and they produce and "rebloat" quickly so I'd give it a shot.

SY......you can isolate them in the Lee's three chamber as well and just leave the center divider in. I only use the nets because they are useless for anything else and I isolate groups at a time. Pick that female and a hardy male and put them in each side for a couple days max. You may even try just one full day and then pull the divider just before lights out at night (and make it pitch black in there is possible). Then go low or normal light in the morning. Mine seem to do best at low light (I leave the two mains off) but they produce in regular light also.

In the Lee's chamber keep a baster on hand to blow out fish waste before the eggs arrive or gently suction debris of possible. I haven't had luck getting eggs to hatch in my main tank though. Thats why I went with a cheap setup 2.5 and a hydrogen peroxide regimen.

JM1212........your absolutely right in the fact that hatching enough brine shrimp and caring for the growing fry is by far the hardest part.

Man I thought interest in this thread was dying out but now I have to give you guys my 20 updates and get the camera again! haha Theres always something new good or bad.............
 
OK good stuff first. Fry are growing fast. So fast in fact that they are always hungry. remember the shrimp hatcheries I suggested earlier. Not enough of a hatch rate for keeping up. Glad I didn't buy a bunch more. Good in a pinch though or for small scale once-off attempts to breed a single batch I guess. I made my own shrimp hatchery that was much larger and I think I either failed to clean the bottles well enough or never let the water stop aggitating long enough to realize that I did have a hatch so I got nothing. In any event the first attempt at a large scale/large percentage hatch was a disaster that left me with two shrimpless days of hungry fry. I ran out to get baby fish food in three different forms from liquid to powder and I honestly think it did more to foul the water than it did to nourish the fish. The busted attempt wasn't worth photographing. Now here is the funny part. The Uh-Oh-I-better-try-something-fast piece of junk I threw together for the moment works unbelievably well. Now I have to scale back the amount of shrimp I am hatching because its too much!

There are better directions than mine for this all over the internet. I strongly recommend you build something BETTER than this Sanford and Son hatchery but the process is simple. I only took a picture of mine to make fun of myself. Drill a bottle top so an airline is a tight fit. Cut the end of the bottle off and create some kind of stand or hanger. I use small poland spring bottles (16oz I think) and a half tablespoon of aquarium salt. Add shrimp eggs. Let the whole concoction swirl and bubble for a day or so. Turn off air for about 5 minutes and check. I use a lamp to do two things, heat the water and encourage the shrimp to swim up toward the light when I turn the bubbles off for easing checking.

Here are the pics

1 & 2 Fry betting bigger. Distinct two tone eyes, fins etc.... Even on macro I can't zoom and focus enough to get a great pic yet but these will do.

3 New fry tank setup has no fish yet but its a 5 gallon hex with all filtration in the hood in a tidy setup. I am anxious to get eggs into my 2.5s again so fry will have to move here next. Still not using substrate in the tank yet.

4 Here is an idea I am going to use in my egg tanks and fry tanks from now on. I took the standard filter tip off and cut a very finely holed sponge to fit over the filter tube. This way no fry can get sucked in and even the brine shrimp just hit the outside and get picked off by the fry. By the way you can use just an air stone for the first couple weeks if you keep up on cleaning and water changes but I went to a small air driven filter on both 2.5s as well. I feel better that way. They are only 8 bucks a piece anyway.

5 The Sanford and Son hatchery! air check valves and adjustable screw valves are really cheap and make life much easier when you have tubes all over the place.

6 The bullpen ready for the next round of breeders in the morning. I am starting again.

7 The henhouse. 5 of them will also go in breeders in the a.m. They are huddled because they had settled for the night and I switched the lights back on. Its a small place for that many fish so I only keep them in overnight.

8 Both nets females on the left males on the right.

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Starting 5 new breeding pairs today. I transferred the fry to the new tank with no complications or losses (to my surprise). One of my pairs started dropping eggs before I even had the other four in the breeders. And away we go..................

My next question will be how different fry can be in size in the same tank before they don't play nice. We'll see.
 
Whelp, my first attempt didn't seem to go so well. Left the pair in the Lee's tank overnight, then removed the divider the next morning. 24 hours later he's had the snot beat out of him and so I put him back in the main tank before he checks out for good.

The female is still in the Lee's tank...Do you think I should try again with another (tougher) male, or just give her a rest for awhile?
 
You may try one more time with another male but I am suspecting you might have two males in there duking it out for supremacy in that small space. I've only had one pair inflict significant fin damage on one another in about 30 pairings now. Good luck.....maybe try breedng them in a 2.5 to give a little more space and then use that for eggs after. They are only 10 bucks plus a heater. Hope that helps.
 
I like your idea for using the separate tank, I'll probably try that. Both fish are now back in the main tank. The male seems to be making a fast recovery so I think he'll be all right. I'm fairly confident about the sex of the female, also considering their behavior - when I returned her to the tank the males were all VERY happy to see her again...
 
Any updates, Gunth? I'd love to see how much the fry have grown :)
 
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