Fire belly newts..?

[04cobratorchred]

Also how exactly do you feed them I have been trying bloodworms and it seems that they are not eating them at all. I have read that it might take a day or two for them to eat but I just want to see if I am doing it right. I put a milk cap in there and put the bloodworms in there. Here is a pic do you think this should work?

 

[tricksterpup]

Cobra:
Ok, I understand these are your first newts but you should've read up on them before doing all of this.
From my previous post.

Spray the land and newt with water daily.
Put some tempting food in the water. Live blackworms will stay alive in the water until eaten.

Newts will eat their food in the water. You can also tempt them with frozen foods that are placed in the water. Please buy a book on newts and salamanders and read it through. I am not trying to flame you here, but this is basical pet principle 101. Always research your pets before you buy them. Before I undertake a new fish, I do reseach about them, this is one reason I have adopted my iguanas in the past. People bought them on a whim and did not know how to care for them.

But this is off your question, and topic so no more mention of this from me.

Feeding:
Feeds on a variety of invertebrate prey in the wild. Will feed on an assortment of live and non-living foods in captivity: earthworms, chopped nightcrawlers, bloodworms (live and frozen), mosquito larvae, glassworms, glass/ghost shrimp, lean strips of beefheart, freeze-dried tubifex cubes. While many will eat commercial "newt-pellets", many will not and if your animals do not appear interested in them, try something else.Many try to feed this species guppies and other small fish. While these newts do indeed occasionally catch small fish in captivity (I have witnessed this many times myself), they are not particularly adept at it or adapted to it the way Pachytriton spp. (paddletails) newts seem to be. There are also very real concerns with the fish introducing parasites and fungal and bacterial infections and one should carefully consider this before using feeder guppies.

So check out this link.
http://www.caudata.org/cc/species/Cynops/C_pyrrhogaster.shtml


And from this following link

Feeding

Very little is known about the prey items of these newts in their natural habitat, but they probably feed on a variety of invertebrates and amphibian larvae and eggs in the wild. Methods of prey capture have been shown to be active hunting-foraging and/or ambush. In captivity they will eat a variety of food items including earthworms, chopped nightcrawlers, tadpoles, glass shrimp, waxworms, bloodworms (live and frozen), and freeze-dried tubifex cubes. Though some will eat commercial “newt pellets” or other processed foods, many will not and if your animal does not appear interested in them, try something else.

Newly purchased individuals may refuse to eat for several days. While this can be a sign of illness, it is also a common behavior of healthy newts when faced with the stress of a new captive environment. If your newt does not appear ill, then the best course of action is to remain patient. Eventually, the instinct to eat will prevail.

So check out the links I presented to you, they should help you with your pets.
Also check out this list it should help as well. http://www.caudata.org/cc/species/Salamandridae.shtml

 

[WinterWind]

04cobra, I think it would be a good idea to rid of the plexi glass island. It seems too big and invasive, limiting the swimming space of the tank. You could use a floating peice of corkbark with a suction cup, or a pile of rocks, though that may be unsafe.

 

[04cobratorchred]

Cobra:
Ok, I understand these are your first newts but you should've read up on them before doing all of this.
From my previous post.


Newts will eat their food in the water. You can also tempt them with frozen foods that are placed in the water. Please buy a book on newts and salamanders and read it through. I am not trying to flame you here, but this is basical pet principle 101. Always research your pets before you buy them. Before I undertake a new fish, I do reseach about them, this is one reason I have adopted my iguanas in the past. People bought them on a whim and did not know how to care for them.

But this is off your question, and topic so no more mention of this from me.


So check out this link.
http://www.caudata.org/cc/species/Cynops/C_pyrrhogaster.shtml


And from this following link



So check out the links I presented to you, they should help you with your pets.
Also check out this list it should help as well. http://www.caudata.org/cc/species/Salamandridae.shtml

Thanks you very much for all your help trick i really appreciate it. Sorry for any trouble i have caused with the newts, and i really do understand what your saying. I did a lot of research on the net before i bought them and that’s why i set the tank up the way i did. But now after having them it doesn't seem like the best way. And feeding them it just took some time to see what they wanted i tried dry newt pellets today after trying bloodworms, and night crawlers and they did eat the pellets. Once again thanks a lot for all your help.

Mark

 

[04cobratorchred]

04cobra, I think it would be a good idea to rid of the plexi glass island. It seems too big and invasive, limiting the swimming space of the tank. You could use a floating peice of corkbark with a suction cup, or a pile of rocks, though that may be unsafe.

Thanks WW i am going to take the plexi glass out and pile the rocks up on one side of the tank so its easer for them to get on and off land.

 

[Emg]

LOL....I think because this post came at the bottom of the last page, some may have missed the pics. Thought I would repost them because some had asked to see them.....besides...I'm a showoff...

OK..here's a few pics I took of my newt tank tonight....

 

[Emg]

Cobra....I think if you covered all of the dirt with moss they would be much better off. In one of the pics it looks like the little fella was a bit overwhelmed trying to navigate through it. I covered my substrate completely with moss so they have a nice carpet to walk on.

I feed my newts by hand......using a chopstick I scoop out some black worms and hold them right in front of thier faces and they scoff them down. I also feed freeze dried tubifex worms the same way..soaking them in the tank water first so it sticks to the chopstick.

I think your newts would like the land area if you just cover the dirt with some moss...be patient and give them some time to adjust. Have something in there that they can hide under too, they will feel more secure. Mine hang out under the plant in the corner most of the time...and now the piece of bark I have in there is a happy hangout for them too.

AND......you can do all the research you can find before you buy something new.....and still have to learn from experience once you bring them home. Reading about something and then actually working with it can be two different things. You're doing fine cobra, just keep doing the 'educated' trial and error thing until you find something that works for them.

I would keep the land...just more moss ground cover and places to hide.

 

[04cobratorchred]

Cobra....I think if you covered all of the dirt with moss they would be much better off. In one of the pics it looks like the little fella was a bit overwhelmed trying to navigate through it. I covered my substrate completely with moss so they have a nice carpet to walk on.

I feed my newts by hand......using a chopstick I scoop out some black worms and hold them right in front of thier faces and they scoff them down. I also feed freeze dried tubifex worms the same way..soaking them in the tank water first so it sticks to the chopstick.

I think your newts would like the land area if you just cover the dirt with some moss...be patient and give them some time to adjust. Have something in there that they can hide under too, they will feel more secure. Mine hang out under the plant in the corner most of the time...and now the piece of bark I have in there is a happy hangout for them too.

AND......you can do all the research you can find before you buy something new.....and still have to learn from experience once you bring them home. Reading about something and then actually working with it can be two different things. You're doing fine cobra, just keep doing the 'educated' trial and error thing until you find something that works for them.

I would keep the land...just more moss ground cover and places to hide.

Thanks a lot EMG. My dad said the same thing that i could research them for years but when i get them its a whole different thing. I went back in the woods today and get a bunch more moss and i put it in there with some cover so they have some places to hide, so i will see how that works. thanks a lot for all your help.

Your set up looks great. the plants and all couldn't look any better. great job on it all.

 

[tricksterpup]

Thanks you very much for all your help trick i really appreciate it. Sorry for any trouble i have caused with the newts, and i really do understand what your saying. I did a lot of research on the net before i bought them and that’s why i set the tank up the way i did. But now after having them it doesn't seem like the best way. And feeding them it just took some time to see what they wanted i tried dry newt pellets today after trying bloodworms, and night crawlers and they did eat the pellets. Once again thanks a lot for all your help.

Mark

Mark, not a problem and I hope I didnt come on to strong. I have seen to many people come on this board and buy pets that they had no clue about. I am glad you read up on your pets.
But I would go with what EMG stated, those guys do need cover and adding moss to the dirt will help them alot. These guys do love cover and since this is a new home, they are going to be stressed so do not worry about them eating right away. But I would keep on your wounded one, so he doesnt get an infection in that leg. So do regular water changes, every other day and keep an eye on him. I am thinking for my future tank, I am going to add a trio of common guppies, endlers or even dwarf livebearers, but not the fancy Guppies you have, to big for the species of newts I want. But yours, those are some nice looking guppies.
and yes, as EMG has stated, you can be having a pet for years and still doing research to know new things about them. I am constantly learning in this hobby even after 30+ years later.
I never noticed that EMG had a female betta in hers, that is really nice as well. Another fish that might work well with the Japanese Fire belly newts might be the Medaka or Japanese Rice fish. I love keeping animals from the same biotope.

 

[WinterWind]

Fire-belly newts also really appreciate dense plant cover in the water as well. I read that their natural habitat is very densely vegetated.

On feeding, try placing a small dish that's clearly visible at the bottom of the tank, then drop blood worms onto it. The food will be visible, and newts find food through their sense of smell, so they will not really find it on land.