First 3gl. (planted)

Cluunox

Cluunox

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My 3 gal. Eclips starts with Hornwort to the left to hide heater and power head pickup tube. A sword in the back right with what i am told is mondo grass front right. started with Beta then added 3 Neon and a Ghost shrimp. I suddenly sprouted snails and got Clown loach to rid them. Side effects to Clown loach are no more Ghost shrimp that I can see but he liked to hide in the hornwort so not sure and clown seams to have taken a fancy to the Betas' tail :(.

Seams to be running well so far at 1 1/2 mo. Bio wheel seams to be keeping up with fish overload so far but adjusting light to bring out Clown loach seams to have slowed plant growth enough to allow Brown algae to get a start. Boosted light to try to get plants to use more neutrients to kill off algae. Time will tell.

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Nice little tank! Do you have anywhere to put the clown loach when it grows?
 
Hi, there are some numerous issues with your setup...
the minimum tank size for a betta is considered 2.5 gallons, which you have met, but that is intended for just a betta.

3 neons is an insufficient school... at least 6 is what they need, but your tank isn't big enough

on to the biggest problem... a clown loach? they get up to 12" and need company of at least 5 more. They need a tank of at least 6’ x 2’ x 2’ dimensions. Please return the clown loach.

brown algae in a new tank is usually diatom algae, which is normal and harmless, should go away on its own... it's just ugly.

mondo grass is also not aquatic and will rot.

kudos on trying a planted setup though! It's gonna look nice....
 
Yeh Clown was an emergency snail removal solution sugested by store and was not in original plans. Was hoping his slow growth would let me get him into a larger tank, did not know about the school size needed vs. agression and health till reading online later. Yes Clown helped with snails but is now a serious problem for both him the beta and me. Looking into bigger tank but don't think I will be able to go as big as needed for his friends (son is looking at 20gl and I am looking at 29gl biocube). Wish I had been told about them needing so many friends before purchase but to late for that kind of thinking. Will check and see if I can return him but not expecting much there.

As for Neons was told 3 or 4 would be ok so went with them and Ghost shrimp to pick up some on bottom. With excelent filtration of tank store figured i could keep 6 - 8" of fish with plants and tank filtration is keeping up with number of fish all water tests are good but with Clown loach stress is getting out of hand and needs fast attention.

Leason learned: "read more first, shop later" and from what I have read hear tonight ask you guys first would be very smart thing.
 
ahhh.... LFS wisdom...

you know, the neons may be fine... they might feel cramped but I don't have a feel for how big your tank is so I don't know

clowns grow faster than you would ever think... you're always one upgrade behind with them.....

I would seriously try to return him the LFS, especially since their employee told you to put him in your 3 GALLON TANK for a temporary snail problem!!

Not blasting you though, you didn't know what was up beforehand.
 
yeh I already knew I had problems before you said anything just kinda hung as to what to do with him.

As for the mondo grass was thinking I had a problem with it but was not sure if it was Clown loach cause I caught him nibbleing or fertalizer or what but your information explains a lot.
 
serissime said:
Hi, there are some numerous issues with your setup...
the minimum tank size for a betta is considered 2.5 gallons, which you have met, but that is intended for just a betta.

3 neons is an insufficient school... at least 6 is what they need, but your tank isn't big enough

on to the biggest problem... a clown loach? they get up to 12" and need company of at least 5 more. They need a tank of at least 6’ x 2’ x 2’ dimensions. Please return the clown loach.

brown algae in a new tank is usually diatom algae, which is normal and harmless, should go away on its own... it's just ugly.

mondo grass is also not aquatic and will rot.

kudos on trying a planted setup though! It's gonna look nice....
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This is a Photo Gallery Section. Keep it on topic. I know we try to help, but i seen many moderators saying this so i'll save them the trouble. Maybe PM the Topic starter in future?

Anyways, onto the tank. It's a nice Setup. I have a 4Gal where I keep just some shrimp and snails. I like yours and I think its great for a Beta. Better than the lil containers at the store! Is that a bg or just a glare on the side? Can't tell. Good Start!
 
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