Yes, it's a 24" Pacu in a 180g. It's just so big it makes the tank look small.
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First Planted Tank Attempt
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I have to wait for the weekend to tackle ripping out the UGF, but here is an updated photo now the water has mostly cleared.
I have driftwood soaking, but I am waiting to put it in until after the UGF is gone.
I have driftwood soaking, but I am waiting to put it in until after the UGF is gone.
going good...:thumbsup:
and i thought the other tanks were not planted that tank with the pacu shure looks planted:rofl:
and i thought the other tanks were not planted that tank with the pacu shure looks planted:rofl:
How tall is the tank? I second the opinion that a tank that tall can easily not have enough light. I'd put a minimum of 100W of CFL etc over that tank.
I've been looking at getting a tank like that but the largest I can find is a 44 gallon. There's one at the LFS I keep trying to talk the owner into giving a deal on. It's been sitting in his showroom for 4 years. Eventually he might give in and let me have it. I've dropped a lot of money in his store recently. I might have to start doing some breeding in my QT tanks when I've got my 125 setup to recoup my expenses, at the price I'll get for them I think I can break even in 20 years.
Then again my wife saw a 90 gallon corner bowfront and said how about African Cichlids (actually she just pointed and said those over there). Then she saw some livebearers and asked about those. I said they wouldn't work with the Cichlids. She suggested a tall tank in the kitchenette. MTS is rearing it's ugly head again and it ain't my fault this time.
I've been looking at getting a tank like that but the largest I can find is a 44 gallon. There's one at the LFS I keep trying to talk the owner into giving a deal on. It's been sitting in his showroom for 4 years. Eventually he might give in and let me have it. I've dropped a lot of money in his store recently. I might have to start doing some breeding in my QT tanks when I've got my 125 setup to recoup my expenses, at the price I'll get for them I think I can break even in 20 years.
Then again my wife saw a 90 gallon corner bowfront and said how about African Cichlids (actually she just pointed and said those over there). Then she saw some livebearers and asked about those. I said they wouldn't work with the Cichlids. She suggested a tall tank in the kitchenette. MTS is rearing it's ugly head again and it ain't my fault this time.
The dimensions are 24"H and the 5 sides are 24", 24", 12", 12" and 12".
I have been thinking I might pull off the plastic lid and replace it with custom cut glass, then have a canopy built that can house better lighting. The stock 18" 15W bulb isn't going to cut it.
It is 44 gallons, might be the same one you are looking at.
At 24" tall and the odd shape. I've been thinking about how I would get enough light over that height of tank. The 24" tall adds in some difficulty. It makes it the same height as my 125.
I'd up my previous recommendation to 150W of light to be able to grow a medium light plant.
BTW a RUGF with a canister filter would work with your UGF plate if your feeling too lazy to tear it out this weekend. The water column flowing up through past the plant roots will eliminate the needs for any substrate fertilizer. The roots will feed directly from the water column. Some plants might not like it but some will do very well.
I'd up my previous recommendation to 150W of light to be able to grow a medium light plant.
BTW a RUGF with a canister filter would work with your UGF plate if your feeling too lazy to tear it out this weekend. The water column flowing up through past the plant roots will eliminate the needs for any substrate fertilizer. The roots will feed directly from the water column. Some plants might not like it but some will do very well.
I've said this a million times on here, but for low cost CFL lighting check out the zoomed terrarium hoods, they've got standard sockets, heat shields and vents and I've got some pretty large bulbs in mine. You could get two of those for about $60 and but a 40w CFL in each and you'd probably be nicely set.
I'm talking about the dual bulb 18" hood btw.
I'm talking about the dual bulb 18" hood btw.
Great tank but corner tanks provide some interesting challenges. Especially Very tall ones. The issues most these tanks like this have is Lighting and current flow. Its hard to get good current flow withe shape so all the plants are getting nice circulation. BUT it can be done. Same with the lighting. Dont think in Watts. You need to think in PAR data. PAR designates the spectral range (wave band) of solar radiation from 400 to 700 nanameters that photosynthetic organisms are able to use in the process of Photosynthesis The one main thing plants need to live. Depending on what plants you want to do and the growth rate you want will determine if your going to do a Low light, Medium light or High light tank. My 90 Gallon planted tank is the same height and for it to be considered to be a Medium highlight tank I had to do 4 bulb T5HO from Catalina with high quality ballast and reflectors.I was able to make it a low to medium light tank with a 3 bulb set up of the same and a high light with a 6 bulb. Alot is more then the watts. Its about the Height from the substrate surface to the bottom of the light. If it has to shine though any lids that will also reduce the light output.
Great tank and it will be fun. You just will want to decide on what plants you want to grow and how much you want to spend and how much work you want into it.
in a planted tank UG filters are not really desired. What can happen is the filter plate can become root bound even with a Reverse flow. In a planted tank Id pull it out. As far as UG filter being Junk..... Far from it. They can serve a great purpose in a tank as they can provide tons of help for Bio filtration in the gravel. The issues most people have is they dont do a very good job of cleaning and gravel vacuuming during a water change.
Enjoy the project. Looks to be some fun.. I love great deals on tanks..... Just picked up my 90gal along with a 75gal and a 30gal for $100. All complete with stands, working HOB's that werent junk and Quality heaters and stuff. Pays to check around sometimes.
Great tank and it will be fun. You just will want to decide on what plants you want to grow and how much you want to spend and how much work you want into it.
in a planted tank UG filters are not really desired. What can happen is the filter plate can become root bound even with a Reverse flow. In a planted tank Id pull it out. As far as UG filter being Junk..... Far from it. They can serve a great purpose in a tank as they can provide tons of help for Bio filtration in the gravel. The issues most people have is they dont do a very good job of cleaning and gravel vacuuming during a water change.
Enjoy the project. Looks to be some fun.. I love great deals on tanks..... Just picked up my 90gal along with a 75gal and a 30gal for $100. All complete with stands, working HOB's that werent junk and Quality heaters and stuff. Pays to check around sometimes.
I asked my LFS about Lumens and Frequencies yesterday (as I know that Watts do not necessarily reflect Lumens or Candelas), and he told me about P.A.R.. That was first I had heard about PAR. So, he recommended 3 bulb system (T5, I think - I got way too much info in too short of time).
I really appreciate all of the great info. Makes me glad I started this post.
I paid $100 for my 180g. I don't think I've paid more than $1/gallon for a complete setup. I have about 7 or 8 tanks, only 4 currently running.
