Freedom of speech issue?

dwayne

dwayne

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Do NOT turn this into a political debate... this is a freedom of speech question (mods, if this is something that shouldn't be talked about per guidelines, feel free to delete/reprimand me :) )

Linda Ronstadt banned for tribute to Michael Moore

http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Guardian/0,4029,1265642,00.html

What do you think of this? I have no problem with artists talking about whatever they want to talk about while they're on stage.

As much as I don't like Linda Ronstadt's music, she should be free to say what she wants during her shows. I mean it's not like she spent the entirety of her show talking, she DID sing.

~Tara
 
True.

I think that those people had a right to walk out of the concert if they didn't like her speeches, but I don't think the management had a right to stop her show right in the middle and boot her out.. what about the majority of the crowd who didn't care about her speech?

Although, as my husband said, free speech is free speech in your own home or out on the street, but if you're on someone else's property singing a concert for them, being paid by them, it's their discretion to pull you...

~Tara
 
Hmmm... companies do this quite frequently if you are getting very political or very religious in the workplace. In this case this was her workplace, and her actions, (from the article) likely caused some patrons to leave.
There is a time and a place for speaking your mind about politics, religion, and other world issues. It's usually not when you are being paid to entertain people who want to hear you sing.
 
heat, that's a good point too. When I go to see Pearl Jam (the very few times they've been around :) ) I expect some political spouting from Eddie, that's just the way he is. Madonna, U2, and even Bon Jovi to an extent are like that too...

I guess I feel bad for the people in the audience who paid (probably $100 or so) to see her sing and didn't care about her speech, then they got rooked out of the rest of the concert. Although I'm sure the manager of the casino either gave them their money back and/or comps to a restaurant, buffet or upcoming show.

~Tara
 
I'll have to agree with heat on this one. Management paid her to put on a show and not to express her political views, which might anger his customers and cause them never to return to his establishment.
 
Personally, I think the hotel went overboard (Went in her room and took everything out. She has done this in many of her concerts, why would this come as a surprise to the hotel managers?), but since this is a privately owned facility, they do have every right to boot someone for what they deem "disruptive behavior". Which also includes card counting. ;)
 
that's just bizarre. First of all, who still goes to a Linda Ronstadt concert? Second, I can see how she could be fired for expressing political views while on the clock so to speak, but not how she could be suddenly ejected from the hotel. And what an overreaction- both on the part of the audience and the management. I mean, if you are such a freak that you can't even HEAR other people's opinions then you really need to move to the outskirts of society and concentrate on your manifesto writing.
 
Originally posted by LongTime
Management paid her to put on a show and not to express her political views, which might anger his customers and cause them never to return to his establishment.
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This is not a freedom of speech issue...they paid her to sing, not dish out her political beliefs....

Originally posted by ash
if you are such a freak that you can't even HEAR other people's opinions then you really need to move to the outskirts of society and concentrate on your manifesto writing.
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the audience obviously wanted to show their disapproval...
Granted I have no idea what Rondstadt said to the audience...I can only imagine what it would take to get a group of her fans into an uproar...
 
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Originally posted by ash
if you are such a freak that you can't even HEAR other people's opinions then you really need to move to the outskirts of society and concentrate on your manifesto writing.
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While they may not have any objections to hearing another person's view, they may object to paying to hear another persons views when they paid to be entertained. That does not make them freaks. IMO, that makes them people who want what they paid for and not instructions on how to vote.

In my state we are being bombarded with Bush/Kerry ads. No matter how I decide to vote, I do not want to go to a concert and hear another ad.
 
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