FW Fish Memory Retention?
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Hey chinn was it on mythbusters?? I saw a show on mythbusters where they were they were trying to prove whether or not goldfish have 3 sec memories, like someone said previously. They did the divider with holes in it deal, and eventually they took that route without the dividers. Their conclusion was that they must have memories longer than just seconds. I'm sure this was an example of classical conditioning much like Pavlov's dog. Don't remember their exact reasoning/conclusion, but I do know that the myth was busted.
I would also imagine that fish such as cichlids have much more of a memory/ are more apt to repond to conditioning. This would most likely be one of the reasons that over hundreds of years humans have come to be more interested in these fish as pets. If these fish have what would appear, IMO, to be larger than normal brain power, then I'm sure that they are very responsive to classical conditioning. Therefore, whether or not they have "short/long term memories" in the way we as human do, they most certainly do have some sort of inherent memory which allows them to react in a specific fashion to a certain stimuli that they have been exposed to at some point(s) in their lives. In fact, I could be wrong here, but I think that dogs don't necessarily have a memory in way that we think of memories. Instead I think that they are just much more easily classically conditioned.
I would also imagine that fish such as cichlids have much more of a memory/ are more apt to repond to conditioning. This would most likely be one of the reasons that over hundreds of years humans have come to be more interested in these fish as pets. If these fish have what would appear, IMO, to be larger than normal brain power, then I'm sure that they are very responsive to classical conditioning. Therefore, whether or not they have "short/long term memories" in the way we as human do, they most certainly do have some sort of inherent memory which allows them to react in a specific fashion to a certain stimuli that they have been exposed to at some point(s) in their lives. In fact, I could be wrong here, but I think that dogs don't necessarily have a memory in way that we think of memories. Instead I think that they are just much more easily classically conditioned.
Man chef that is a ridiculous setup, I want it. Are there water bridges btw all the bigger tanks. If I were you I'd head over to Oceans and Seas and start buying some dope cichlids to throw in there. However, it looks like you already have quite an investment in there. How did you end up going with the fish you did?? Did you ever have any desire to throw in any cichlids, or have you ever??? Once again, good job with the setup.
beezer720 said:
Thanks beezer. Hey, I live just a few miles from Oceans and Seas. I like stopping in there, even if it's just to look around.
Yes, there are 3 bridges that connect all 4 of the big tanks. One of the bridges is hard to see because 2 of the tanks are butted together. This set-up revolves around the Clown Loaches.
When I started my 1st tank, I did some searching on the net for a popular fish thats peaceful and long lived. After reading about how clowns lay on their sides (like playing dead) and click when they're happy, I decided that I wanted to try a few of them. Immediately, I fell in love with them. Then I kept getting more clowns and kept getting more tanks. I'm still crazy about them. Sorry, I never even though of getting any Cichlids.
To everyone- I'm sorry that I went off topic.
Who gives a sh*t about going off topic, lol, your setup is dope and I needed to see it. Yeah I'm about 10 m north of O&S in Clinton Twp. I too go in there just to see what they got even though I really cant have/ dont need any more fish. They have some crazy stuff sometimes. I was in there about a week ago and they had some vampire tetras. Could be some of the wilder mouths I've ever seen. For anyone who doesn't know what these are:\
http://images.search.yahoo.com/sear...p=VAMPIRE+TETRA&type=jpeg&no=1&tt=15&ei=UTF-8
Its a characin I believe, the same family as the piranha, but I've never seen any fish, except for maybe paraya, with such ridiculous dentures as this thing. This picture does no justice to these teeth, you must see them in person, even at 3", and they get 12+".
http://images.search.yahoo.com/sear...p=VAMPIRE+TETRA&type=jpeg&no=1&tt=15&ei=UTF-8
Its a characin I believe, the same family as the piranha, but I've never seen any fish, except for maybe paraya, with such ridiculous dentures as this thing. This picture does no justice to these teeth, you must see them in person, even at 3", and they get 12+".
My 10 gallon guppy tank every day when lights come on i feed. Now whenever i turn on the lights they all swarm to the top and push and shove each other for space. Also when i walk near the tank they sometimes do that cuz they think i'm going to feed them. I supposed i conditioned them that way.
chinnp I saw the same type of show with gold fish. IT was on a show called mythbusters. fish can learn to associate colors with food. Ie goldfish, we have some at school that we tought to pull a wire with orange enamal on the end when they are hungry, they know by pulling the wire once a day at a certain time they will get fed. so yes I think they have memory
When i need to feed my fish(brigittae, golden honey gourami, green neon tetra) i have to move the light a little bit causing some sound. now everytime i move the lamp they will swim to where i usually drop their food.
I've taught angels and discus to eat out of my hand. Also, when I'd add some plants to my previous discus tank, the discus would recognize me specifically and rub up against my hand. They never did that to anyone else, ever.
So they can at the very least recognize the hand that feeds them.
So they can at the very least recognize the hand that feeds them.
