Goldfish Questions

Constant threat of being eaten, likely sky-high ammonia. Nope, not someplace a fish would want to live. You asked why the goldies hide from the turtle--they hide because they recognize the turtle as a predator. Defending your tank--when you say the goldies have been in there for 2 days--indicates that you just want to hear us tell you nothings wrong. That's not the case. So, here's a full rundown on the problems.

1) Turtles are predators. They will catch and eat a fish, even one much larger than seems possible.

2) Turtle tanks are seldom maintained in the same fashion as a tank for fish--the ammonia that is lethal to fish isn't a problem for turtles. Hence, conditions in the tank are unlikely to be favorable to the fish.

3) Schooling behavior and hiding is a stress response to a perceived threat.

4) 14 goldies will not survive in a 100 gallon aquarium, even without the turtle. They can get up to 12 inches and should grow quickly--space and clean water needs are around 10-20 gallons per inch of goldfish.

And, sorry, while I agree that keeping fish in tiny bowls is a bad thing, that in no way justifies your keeping practices.
 
Exlax said:
A little harsh arent you, considering that you have never once seen my tank or the fish AND you dont know how the turtles react to them. I am appauled at that...Considering there are fish that live in tiny *** little bowls. :mad:

Hmmm... I wonder what fish would die sooner. One in a fishbowl or one in a tank chased by a hungry turtle for hours on end? :confused:
 
OrionGirl said:
You asked why the goldies hide from the turtle.
I NEVER ASKED WHY THEY HIDE. I asked why they go in groups. Now they are becoming more secure in their new home.
OrionGirl said:
when you say the goldies have been in there for 2 days--indicates that you just want to hear us tell you nothings wrong. That's not the case.
How do you know what i want to hear or what i expect from your peoples responses. I WAS ASKING A QUESTION TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE

OrionGirl said:
1) Turtles are predators. They will catch and eat a fish, even one much larger than seems possible.[/QUOTE}
I ALREADY SAID I DONT CARE IF THEY EAT THE FISH. Thats why i dont have expensive nice fish in there...THey are feeder gold fish
OrionGirl said:
2) Turtle tanks are seldom maintained in the same fashion as a tank for fish--the ammonia that is lethal to fish isn't a problem for turtles. Hence, conditions in the tank are unlikely to be favorable to the fish.
How do you know how our tanks our maintaned how dare you try and put us down. I spend months researching how to treat my fellow beings. SO how can you say that there are people that dont clean the tanks as much as you. There is a whole forum of people that are absolutely great.

OrionGirl said:
4) 14 goldies will not survive in a 100 gallon aquarium, even without the turtle. They can get up to 12 inches and should grow quickly--space and clean water needs are around 10-20 gallons per inch of goldfish.
Thats wierd because i have about 10 in a 55 gallon for about a year and they HAVE ALL LIVED.
OrionGirl said:
And, sorry, while I agree that keeping fish in tiny bowls is a bad thing, that in no way justifies your keeping practices.

How do you know how i treat them. Justify my keeping practices get real chick.

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My friend gave me a goldfish in a 2 gal tank. I feel bad and I can't take it to the fish shop cause she would kill me. Well I put it in a uncycled 15 gal tank I just got. It has been over 2 weeks. I just got some bio spira in the mail today. I put it in my other tanks and it cycled them instantly. But when I put the bio spira in the goldfish tank NOTHING (ammonia, nitrites) went down. This isn't a question I know what I need to do (get rid of it). But I just wanted to show you that one in a 15 gallon isn't even a big enough space. I am guessing that the reason it did that is because the tank is overstocked with just 1 goldfish.
 
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