Goldfish sitting like Buddha ... ?!

I swear some are so quick to pander overstocked this and overstocked that; its like a contest of sorts.

I say the fish aren't going to be 12" next month not even in 6 months, so assuming other conditions are met I agree with the frogman and say they are fine for now. Of course you should understand that eventually you will need a bigger tank or a plan to relocate the fish down the road when they get bigger.

As for those other conditions - in the mean time you should have plenty of filtration and make sure you regularly monitor the water conditions to insure good water quality.
 
feng shui is a set of guidelines for people, not for FISH! i don't see anything healthy about having 7 goldies in a 35g tank. the black moor, being sight-impaired, will have a very hard time competing for food against the other fish, and the comet, naturally being more streamlined and faster, will probably get the lion's share over all the others. comets and fancy goldfish do not mix well for that reason. eventually (if the fish live for very long) you will see the comet growing very quickly, and the other fish will only grow a tiny amount, if at all. unless you do water changes two or three times a week and have very adequate filtration, your fish are going to be stunted. if you over-feed in hopes of making sure everyone gets enough, the water is going to foul probably on a daily basis. you need a bigger tank or less fish. period. while the above poster is correct in saying that the fish are not going to be 12" in even six months, this living arrangement will still affect them long term. lack of proper nutrition and/or exposure to high ammonia/nitrites/nitrates/hormones at this time (they are not just small fish, they are BABY fish) will have negative consequences throughout their life.
 
Derringer said:
I swear some are so quick to pander overstocked this and overstocked that; its like a contest of sorts.

I say the fish aren't going to be 12" next month not even in 6 months, so assuming other conditions are met I agree with the frogman and say they are fine for now. Of course you should understand that eventually you will need a bigger tank or a plan to relocate the fish down the road when they get bigger.

As for those other conditions - in the mean time you should have plenty of filtration and make sure you regularly monitor the water conditions to insure good water quality.
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As long as people realize that in the future they will need to upgrade to a bigger tank, some people just get rid of some to make room, i couldn't do that especially if we raised them from fry..IMO.......:)
 
Derringer said:
I swear some are so quick to pander overstocked this and overstocked that; its like a contest of sorts.

I say the fish aren't going to be 12" next month not even in 6 months, so assuming other conditions are met I agree with the frogman and say they are fine for now. Of course you should understand that eventually you will need a bigger tank or a plan to relocate the fish down the road when they get bigger.

As for those other conditions - in the mean time you should have plenty of filtration and make sure you regularly monitor the water conditions to insure good water quality.
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We do this for a reason. Keeping SEVEN goldfish in a 35G tank during their developmental years (when they are small) will severely stunt their growth and cause all kinds of long term health problems and early deaths.

I wish it was a contest so more people would be inclined to inform newbies of the health problems they are causing their fish.

I know the general mindset is "Hey, I'll get a bigger tank when they get big!" but that simply won't happen. They won't get nearly as big as they should get because of the stunting and in 6-12 months, half of those fish will be dead leaving 3-4 fish to try and struggle in a 35G.... still severely overstocked so they'll continue to be stunted in growth and live in poor water quality with constant health problems.

You can't tell people "eventually" when we know TODAY that it's a major problem to be keeping the fish in that severely undersized tank.

Plus... trying to cycle a new tank with seven goldfish is a disaster waiting to happen. They should be doing twice daily 25% PWC's for the next two months to give these fish a chance to make it through the cycling process. Then continue the twice daily 25% PWC's to remove the excess hormone levels so the fish are not as severely stunted.

If they choose to keep seven BIG goldfish (one which is a long-bodied goldfish), they need an 8' long 200G tank.... not a 35G tank.

Telling them it's OK to cram these fish in a 35G is simply wrong.
 
Yikes, my bad; I was going off of what frogman had said about "3" not 7 - geesh I should have paid more attention to what the OP said instead of what followed.

Yes I agree 7 is too many "today" - course that doesnt change my opinion about the "contest" too much as I havent seen many of these preachers attacking the MFK crew when they come in with their serverally overstocked tank images. I guess what I am getting at is theres a nice way to get the point across and then theres the in your face way which I see much to often on here.
 
I have never seen this behaviour in my red-cap oranda and my ryukin... I guess I just didn't have them in the tank long enough... I miss them :(

I would like to try them again sometime in the future and see if I would be able to witness this.
 
My goodness! So many different types of feedback and people getting very offended! I didn't know a question like this was going to rile people up so much. I do thank everyone for their opinions and information. I'm not as well-versed with coldwater tanks and I would like to/should be and will take all the advice I can get.

One thing I did not mention is that we are in the process of constructing a goldfish pond in the backyard and will be moving some of the fish to that eventually.

I did some questioning where I bought the fish and found out that the employees were feeding the fish at LEAST 3-4 times a day. Woah! So I increased my feeding from once every other day to once a day. I did lose two fish the first week and have decided not to replace them yet so the number of fish (all of which are quite small, btw) is down to five. I'm about to move my flowerhorn from a 55g to a 125g in a month or sooner so I am planning to move the goldfish from the 35g to the 55 and set up the 35g as a second saltwater tank.

It seems, however, that the laziness issue was mainly attributed to a huge difference in feeding frequency. I've had the fish for 3+ weeks now and their behavior has changed significantly.
 
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