Welcome to AquariaCentral.com

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. You will be entering into a wonderful world of aquatic information, for all aquarists, no matter what their experience level.

Our members will do their best to help you in your aquarium endeavors. We have a vast assortment of Forums to dive into:

-General Freshwater
-Marine and Brackish area
-Terrarium and Vivariums
-Coldwater
-DIY, Classifieds, Members Tanks Photographs and more.

We even have a general area, that is just as much fun as the rest of the Community, for off topic discussions and a real-time chat room for instant advice!

Joining Aquaria Central has numerous benefits, but the best, is our 112,000+ members, helping one another in this fascinating hobby!

Register now, and be sure to check out our scheduled contests with exciting prizes!

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! !

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Welcome to the Internet's friendliest aquatic forum!

- Team AC

  1. Get the NEW AquariaCentral iOS app --> http://itunes.apple.com/app/id1227181058 // Android version will be out soon!
    Dismiss Notice

gravel cleaner w/more suction?

Discussion in 'Freshwater Equipment, Products, & DIY' started by etspam, Dec 3, 2017.

  1. etspam

    etspam AC Members

    Real Name:
    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2007
    Messages:
    57
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Last Seen:
    Dec 4, 2017
    Hi all-

    I have a standard gravel cleaner w/pump to get it started. The suction opening is about 2", and the tube itself is 1/2" or so. It works fine, but I'm trying to get a little more suction power, in order to suck up the plethora of snails that are everywhere in the tank. I see them getting into the water column, but most are too heavy to really be sucked all the way up/out. Ideally, the suction opening should be smaller (I think, haven't done fluid dynamics since college) to get stronger suction with the same flow going out. However, looking through pet stores & online, this seems to be the typical sizing for gravel cleaners. If it's smaller, then the tubing itself is also smaller, so I don't think the suction power would be dramatically different. Anyone have any suggestions on a gravel cleaner that might do what I want?

    ET
     
  2. OrionGirl

    OrionGirl No freelancing!

    Real Name:
    Sheila
    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2001
    Messages:
    13,547
    Likes Received:
    165
    Trophy Points:
    117
    Location:
    Poconos
    Last Seen:
    Yesterday at 7:50 AM
    Real Name:
    Sheila
    No...If it pulls snails out, it's likely going to also pull gravel. Best bet for mass snail removal is to bait a jar with lettuce, lay it on the bottom on it's side, pull it out each morning and manually remove the snails. However, keep in mind that snail populations only grow to the size of the food, so removing them will only be a temporary fix. Cutting back feeding and cleaning more often will have to be part of your long term solution.
     
    FreshyFresh likes this.
  3. cyberbeer65

    cyberbeer65 Scratch Glass!

    Real Name:
    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2005
    Messages:
    837
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Metro Detroit
    Last Seen:
    Saturday at 1:04 AM
    Invest in a Python!
     
  4. FreshyFresh

    FreshyFresh AC Members

    Real Name:
    Joel
    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2013
    Messages:
    3,310
    Likes Received:
    204
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Location:
    West Falls NY
    Last Seen:
    Yesterday at 6:23 PM
    Real Name:
    Joel
    What size tank are we trying to gravel vac? Is it high off the ground?

    My older Aqueon brand gravel vac is fairly large and moves a lot of water. The clear plastic tube is ~16" long and the clear vinyl hose is 5/8" ID. It's the type with a check valve in it, where you jiggle it to get the siphon going.

    Anyway.. I route the vac hose straight down into a big plastic storage tote that I keep a utility pump in with a garden hose attached. I pump the tote out the door and onto my lawn.
     
  5. fishorama

    fishorama AC Members

    Real Name:
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    7,997
    Likes Received:
    277
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    SF Bay area, CA
    Last Seen:
    Yesterday at 10:33 PM
    The deeper the distance from the gravel to the bottom of the removal bucket, the better suction you'll get...so if your tank bottom is a "standard" 30 inch stand height a larger vac head with tubing that is larger in diameter than snails will help remove more snails...in theory.

    If your gravel is larger & heavier than the snails it doesn't matter as much as long as your tank is high enough from the floor & tubing greater than snail diameter. Low tanks are very hard to vacuum effectively for detritus let alone snails or even their empty shells. Small sand-like substrate will be more easily vacuumed out than snails or their empty shells, it's a matter of weight...a PITA

    This is why I hate low tanks!! Small vac head & small tubing cannot remove snails or even empty shells.

    I agree the bait & remove technique, If done often, is more effective than just trying to vacuum out snails. There's also the smush snail shells & vacuum out the pieces...but be careful, dead animals that aren't removed can cause ammonia spike. Ramshorn, & the less cute pond snails, can be easily crushed; but MTS are too hard & their shells heavier.

    Less food is always a good way to reduce snails of all kinds.
     
  6. dougall

    dougall ...

    Real Name:
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2005
    Messages:
    1,922
    Likes Received:
    150
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Last Seen:
    Today at 12:14 AM
    You can always use a powered gravel vacuum that will recirculate the filtered water back to the tank.

    Either just buy one, or attach the vac hose to the intake on your filter
     
  7. FreshyFresh

    FreshyFresh AC Members

    Real Name:
    Joel
    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2013
    Messages:
    3,310
    Likes Received:
    204
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Location:
    West Falls NY
    Last Seen:
    Yesterday at 6:23 PM
    Real Name:
    Joel
    Very true on the low tank position thing.

    On my Titan Eze double stand, my goldfish 55g is on the bottom, which is basically floor level. For that, like you say, all you can really do is remove water with gravel vac hoses. I use two of those super cheap eBay squeeze bulb siphon vacs on the bottom tank and route them into the tote described above. As long as you keep the water level in the tote, lower than the tank, it siphons out great, just not enough for any real suction power to the substrate. It's not really an issue for this tank though, because my goldies are constantly sifting through the gravel, which breaks up the debris, allowing it to get sucked into the filter. A super thick layer of substrate would be an issue, but a thinner layer works out well for my particular setup.
     
  8. dougall

    dougall ...

    Real Name:
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2005
    Messages:
    1,922
    Likes Received:
    150
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Last Seen:
    Today at 12:14 AM
    Every time you say Titan eze, I think you are advertising condoms. ;)

    But even at ground level, if you run the vac through a sponge and a pump it should just be fine
     
  9. FreshyFresh

    FreshyFresh AC Members

    Real Name:
    Joel
    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2013
    Messages:
    3,310
    Likes Received:
    204
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Location:
    West Falls NY
    Last Seen:
    Yesterday at 6:23 PM
    Real Name:
    Joel
    More of a Pygmy Eze here Doug, but one can dream..

    Thank you for noticing none the less.
     

Share This Page

zoomed.com
hikariusa.com
aqaimports.com
Store