Green spot algae-- suggestions

zanytomato

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Hey everyone,

I'm soliciting suggestions for what I should do with my tank. I have developed a green spot algae problem rather significantly in the last week or so. It's not much on the glass, but it's covering the bulk of my plants (my amazon swords, in particular) and the larger ornamental rocks in the substrate. I've heard mixed things on phosphate, including that phosphate depletion can be a cause of GSA. I picked up a phosphate test kit tonight, however, and noted that my levels were at 1 mg/L.

I also have a bit of the black beard algae-- maybe two or three very small patches.

Aside from the algae, I notice some small holes in the leaves of my plants, that seem indicative of a deficiency (as opposed to being munched).

Here's what I can tell you about the tank itself (let me know if I forget anything): It's just shy of a year old (has been planted since the beginning). I'm using DIY CO2 with a diffuser rated for a 30 gallon. My C02 drop checker tells me that my levels are in the 30ppm range; that's with a pH of 7.2 and KH of 2. I use the Flourish Seachem Tabs in my substrate (just regular gravel, nothing special, with two tabs spaced apart). Oh, and the regular ammonia/nitrite/nitrate levels are 0/0/0 (my tank has enough plants that my nitrates seem to stay at 0). My lighting is <1WPG (I've got the standard 15W in my 20G hood), though my apartment is very, very bright, for what it's worth.

Should I be testing for more trace elements to see what I'm short? And/or take a more controlled approach to fertilizing, rather than just the tabs? Or am I simply doomed because of my low light situation? I'm planning on a DIY retro-kit for the tank as my summer project.

Thx for your thoughts!
 
Oh, forgot to mention that I have my lights on a timer for about 10 hours/day.
 
I'm no algae expert (in fact, I'm battling thread algae), but what jumps out at me is your lighting: you've got .75 wpg. I wonder if your plants aren't getting enough light to out-compete the algae. :confused:
 
Yeah, I worry about the same thing. It's weird that the problem just cropped up now, though... perhaps it has just taken this long for my system to really go out of balance with the light?
 
What temperature light is it? Sure it's ~6500k? If not that might be the problem.

At that light level, it's really not worth your effort to do the DIY CO2...it's kind of a lot of trouble and really isn't needed below 1 wpg...but that's really up to you.

However, on the other side, your nitrates being at 0 is great for the fish, not so great for the plants. When nitrates are at 0, it means your plants are consuming all available nitrate, and once they've used that up, they are SOL. This could indicate that you have an excessive of other nutrients, allowing the GSA outbreak.

I wouldn't worry about other tests. For the planted aquarium, the only nutrient tests that are worth a darn(after all, this is a family site) are nitrate and phosphate. Iron test kits are notoriously inaccurate, and other than that there's just not much you can test for.


My recommendations: I'd look into increasing your light. I wouldn't go too high. 1.5, maybe *maybe* 2 wpg. Keep the DIY CO2, and then look into dosing NPK and traces on a small scale. Keep testing your nitrates and keep up your water changes. Test your nitrates before a water change, see where you are at. If you are still at 0, add more. Make sure your plants stay fed, but not overfed.
 
Great, thanks jmhart... I'll see what I can do about the light and dosing some NPK and trace.

I'll have to check the temp of the light, but it's not something I'd thought of... is 6500 what I should aim for?
 
Color temperature of light is very important. Plants need light what's commonly called the "Daylight" spectrum. Manufacturers sometimes change around the definition of "Daylight", so you want to look for the kelvin rating, or temperature. Look for a bulb that has at least 6500k. Most people around these parts use anything from 6500k up to 10000k. As you move from 6500k to 10000k the light becomes more blue, often brining out the colors of fish and red plants mroe, but this is entirely subjective.

Point is, make sure the bulb is a good plant bulb.
 
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