Help fix my 'tank of death'

I agree with the above posts. Without knowing why your fish died in the first place, you stand a high chance of repeating the process and creating another "tank of death" even though I'm sure it's not your intention. Don't worry, lots of people make mistakes with their fish tanks (myself included) and we're here to help.

Is this the same tank where the cory with swimbladder problems died? Even if it's not, it seems like your tanks are having issues. Give us some details and we'll try to help you sort it out

I hate to take a pause and get off the thread topic for a moment but its worth mentioning..........if we had more posts like this with a helpful, nonjudgmental tone that expresses a supportive attitude and a willingness to help there would be a lot less conflict on the site. Kudos to you bro :dance:
 
push350z said:
One of my danios died during this time too but I thought he may have gotten accidently caught in the filter and got away (he was a tiny little guy) because he was unable to close his mouth for some reason but didn't show any other symptoms of being sick.

Did you happen to notice what the danio's gills look like during this period? I am asking because I noticed that most fish with severe gill infections or swollen gills have difficulty closing their mouth as if its locked in a certain position (different from gasping). Well nothing specific on my end, just wanted to mention that and maybe give you some ideas. Kind of puzzling though since you have good water parameters.

And by the way gunther, plah is a "sis", not a bro ;)
 
I had trouble with my jullii's also. I started out with 4. 1 died after I had it for 2 months. It had a swimbladder problem identical to what yours had in the picture. Parameters were all normal. The other corys were fine, all other fish were fine. So everything was all right for the next 3 months until I went on vacation last week. I came home and 2 of my 3 were dead and had obviously been eaten by the ghost shrimp. Unfrotunatly I was away so I don't know what went wrong, but parameters were still normal when I got home, and all the other fish are normal and healthy. I did a water change anyway. My last cory is fine and has been moved to my mom's tank with her jullii's. I have kuhlie loaches now.

So maybe there is just something about this particular species, maybe your tank is fine. Like someone said they are usually taken from the wild and that will cause problems. Good luck.
 
thanks, both you guys! i'm glad khombre's standing up for my femininity :)

and gunther, thanks for the compliment. just wanted to let you know, tho, that i can get nasty, too. but only with people who ask for advice, then don't take it and throw it back in our faces. i do try to treat newcomers with a positive attitude, tho. i figure everyone needs at least 1 chance. it's when they blow that chance that i get mad :mad:

to push350z, the feeding your filter sponge idea is great! just don't do it in a closed bag, because the bacteria need oxygen to do what they do. you could probalby just put it in a bucket or some other open container of water.
 
khombre said:
Did you happen to notice what the danio's gills look like during this period? I am asking because I noticed that most fish with severe gill infections or swollen gills have difficulty closing their mouth as if its locked in a certain position (different from gasping). Well nothing specific on my end, just wanted to mention that and maybe give you some ideas. Kind of puzzling though since you have good water parameters.

And by the way gunther, plah is a "sis", not a bro ;)
I remember looking at them and nothing really struck me as out of the ordinary about them, he didn't really move around much though he treaded in place a lot though, that was the only out of the ordinary thing I noticed. It's possible that he may have encountered some damage to his gills though with ammonia as when I just got into fish I didn't know the dangers of ammonia (listened to petsmart employee) and I think he had a little bit of damage from that.

Also this is just a tad off topic, but what could cause a danios tail to droop a little almost like it's vertebrae was curving downward?
 
fballguy said:
I had trouble with my jullii's also. I started out with 4. 1 died after I had it for 2 months. It had a swimbladder problem identical to what yours had in the picture. Parameters were all normal. The other corys were fine, all other fish were fine. So everything was all right for the next 3 months until I went on vacation last week. I came home and 2 of my 3 were dead and had obviously been eaten by the ghost shrimp. Unfrotunatly I was away so I don't know what went wrong, but parameters were still normal when I got home, and all the other fish are normal and healthy. I did a water change anyway. My last cory is fine and has been moved to my mom's tank with her jullii's. I have kuhlie loaches now.

So maybe there is just something about this particular species, maybe your tank is fine. Like someone said they are usually taken from the wild and that will cause problems. Good luck.
That's bizarre, the more I read about them though the more it makes sense they may be a little more susceptible to disease since they are only found in a handful of places and endure a long trip to get to stores. Can anyone verify that mine was a julii though and not a trilinateus? I know there are some subtle differences and from what I can tell mine does in fact look like an authentic julii.
 
plah831 said:
thanks, both you guys! i'm glad khombre's standing up for my femininity :)

and gunther, thanks for the compliment. just wanted to let you know, tho, that i can get nasty, too. but only with people who ask for advice, then don't take it and throw it back in our faces. i do try to treat newcomers with a positive attitude, tho. i figure everyone needs at least 1 chance. it's when they blow that chance that i get mad :mad:

to push350z, the feeding your filter sponge idea is great! just don't do it in a closed bag, because the bacteria need oxygen to do what they do. you could probalby just put it in a bucket or some other open container of water.
Thanks for all your help I completely forgot about the air, i'll put them in one of my spare buckets while I raise the temp of the water tonight just as a precautionary measure. I'll have about 225 watts of heating power and i'll probably lower the water level a little bit to maximize the temp I can get it to. Probably keep it there for about 2-3 hours and then cool her down.
 
if ich cant survive in high temps...and there is no fish in the tank...put boiling water in the tank...

hit the ich hard...they will adapt to the small increases in temp....hit them hard with a big increase of temp...

they will die faster that way

edit : make sure u have nothing in there that can melt...lol
 
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push350z said:
Also this is just a tad off topic, but what could cause a danios tail to droop a little almost like it's vertebrae was curving downward?
A ... common problem, often caused by a mycobacterium, is piscine tuberculosis. Very often this a disease that will (be) localized in bone, especially in the spine (but also in other organs)...it is not effectively treatable as far as I know, and is generally caused by poor water quality. This would be my guess....

From http://www.badmanstropicalfish.com/mb/mb75.html

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Twisted spines

Sometimes fish can be seen to have bent backs, a twisted or bent spine causes this.

Fish fry often develop in this way due to internal parasites or genetic defects, in adult fish the likely cause is exposure to electricity either from an electrical fault causing a shock or following a thunderstorm. Sometimes the twist in the spine is not easily visible, but the inability of the affected fish to swim properly is noticeable.

From http://www.pondcreations.co.uk/fish_health.htm

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A bent spine is a common birth defect, but if a fish suddenly develops a bent spine, poor nutrition from an inadequate diet or Tuberculosis may be the cause.

From http://www.theaquarians.net/Article...parasites_2.htm


taken from a thread http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27295&highlight=back+curved

I know that large sharks (e.g. nurse sharks) will often develop curved backs in captivity. Don't know if this is related or not.

You might want to start a separate thread addressing that specific concern. I remember hearing some folks talking about it.
 
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