HELP!:my pleco has lost some coler and his fins have red spot's on the edges!

[hydraloveingman]

I've never heard of the stunting thing before,what are you,re sources on that? i DO have a place where the crab can crawl out of the water,it's a long slender piece of driftwood that leads up to a driftwood platform against the front of the glass.BTW i mistyped....the goldfish is only 3 inches.and one more thing..... why didn't you tell me that paling is a sign of malnutrition? I'm going to try some lettuce tied to the tanks biggest piece of driftwood and see if that helps,and what kind of antibiotic would you recommend for the red fin tips? i think being malnourished made him more susceptible to infection and the red tip bug became contagious.oh,and i think i should tell you that there are now only 9 minnows,one of them got crushed between the breeder box and the glass wall.PS:ammonia is zero, i just forgot to post the ammonia reading the first time.

 

[laurenrocksth]

I think that you really need to consider at the VERY least rehoming the plecos and the goldfish. A goldfish is a cold water fish but the rest of the fish in your tank are tropicals... i.e. they need much higher temps to do well long term.

Stunting is actually a very common thing that happens when a too big of a fish is placed in too small of a tank. Also, common plecos exhibit quite a bit of aggression amongst themselves. If they haven't started yet, I bet they will soon. I have one common pleco in a 125g and wouldn't consider putting another in there. Unless you plan on getting a MUCH larger tank soon, I would try to rehome them quickly before permanent damage is done.

*edit* Sorry, I just reread your original post. I think that only the plecos and beta prefer the warmer temps. Nonetheless, I hope that you change the stocking of your 10g to something more appropriate to a tank of that size. Also, depending on the type of goldfish you have (comet, fancy) they can also grow extremely large.

 

[blue2fyre]

I agree there needs to be a tank upgrade and some rehoming for those fish to be happiest. Otherwise their lives will just be shortened in these conditions.

I would expect the parameters to be different, and you say you are not using strips. What test kit are you using? Who's it by?

 

[rinmouse]

In your first post, you said your 'tank is three years old, so cycling isn't a problem' But then you say -

i,like an idiot,listened to the pet store guy and added my fish on the same night that i filled my tank up and did not buy testing strips,is this going to be a problem in the future?

So have all your fish been in this tank for three years? I agree with everyone who has posted-your tank is crazy overstocked. Though you say your levels are fine, it is difficult to believe your tests are accurate with the fish you have in that tiny tank. The most reasonable explanation for the deterioration of your fish would be water quality. Even if your fish seem 'fine' they can't possibly be thriving in that environment.

 

[DAVIDFBT]

1 six inch goldfish that i have not identified,

BTW i mistyped....the goldfish is only 3 inches.

I don't think you can mistype or get the size of a goldfish wrong from 6 inches to 3 inches, I suspect that you are lying to us so that we won't tell you, "Oh, since your goldfish is already big, you have to get rid of it." You also have inconsistencies in your posts, making it very hard to believe you. And could you stop posting those witty and childish editing reasons in your posts?

 

[jpappy789]

The effects/causes of stunting haven't been well researched if I am not mistaken, but when a possibly 12" fish doens't reach its potential size because it's kept in a 10 gallon tank its pretty obvious that something is wrong. And it happens all too much.

 

[wataugachicken]

do you have pics?

 

[Neonsilver]

Sounds like you have all the information you need but you don't want to listen, but that's just my take on it.

 

[bazil323]

I find it very hard to believe that you are being truthful. Either way, you have way too many fish in that size tank. A 100+ gallon tank would be more appropriate, and even then it would be tight. Rehome the plecs, goldfish, crab, and loach because none of them are appropriate for that tank. Even that would be fairly tight given that common plecs need at least 125g. The rosy reds should be in probably 30+ gallons as minnows get fairly large. I'm not sure how large. The betta should be in at least 2.5 gallons but ALONE!

I don't know about crabs, but most of the things I saw while researching inverts said that they should be in a species tank. Unless it's a marine one, then they can be in a community. Crabs are just not peaceful. They will try to eat or at least catch your fish.

 

[bazil323]

Oh, btw, you should check out the article section for more info about cycling and such. I'm pretty sure there's one about stunting too. All that newbie stuff that you'll need.