Help with Bumble bee goby

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I just went to feed my fish and I noticed one of my gobys are not well at all. at first I thought he was dead, the bubble stone threw him up, but thats normal, but then I noticed he didn't swim away, he just started sinking back down, he landed on the leaf of a plant and just stayed there, then he slid off... I noticed his spine (is that what is it on a fish?) was bent. they all seemed fine earlier today but now he just doesn't move for a minute, tries to move a little and then stops again. hes barely hanging on to life and I don't know whats wrong with him. I'm sure its probably too late but I'm kind of worried. I was looking at the others to see if they are ok, and I don't know if I'm just seeing things or if one of the others has a slight curvature. The others are still active though. they are swimming and eating. one of them attacking the carnivore pellet as usual.

I don't know if this could possibly be the reason but.. my tank is freshwater and I was told they are brackish water fish. But the LFS had them in the freshwater section with other freshwater fish.. I figured it was like mollies, everything I have read online says they NEED some salt, but very experienced fish keepers told me that they are fine without it. so I figured it was just another mis information thing and they were really fine in freshwater.. but is that wrong? Am I killing my fish by having them in freshwater?

Btw. 10 gallon tank
it is cycled, finished last week.
have had the gobys for 1 week.
temp stays between 78-80
they are eating tropical flakes, carnivore pellets, shrimp pellets and sinking catfish wafers.

Tank mates are neon tetras and false julii cories. they get along, the gobys aren't scared of anyone, even chased a tetra away from its food, sometimes the cories "run them over" I wonder if this is an injury?

ammo 0
nitrite 0
nitrate under .30

I removed him and put him in a 1 gallon bowl I have. no filter and I didn't put in a bubble stone cause i don't want the current to throw him around. it is heated though. no light.
 
I don't know if this could possibly be the reason but.. my tank is freshwater and I was told they are brackish water fish.
Not all are brackish water however it is most probable that you pick up a brackish water species instead. Brachygobius aggregatus and Brachygobius xanthomelas are the only true freshwater bumblebee gobies. What is your SG?
I removed him and put him in a 1 gallon bowl I have. no filter and I didn't put in a bubble stone cause i don't want the current to throw him around. it is heated though. no light.
Keep a watch on your water parameters.
 
I don't know. stupid LFS doesn't provide those, only the common names. but the person who made the remark about them being brackish gave me this link and that is what they look like. http://badmanstropicalfish.com/profiles/profile59.html

they are a softer yellow, not so bright if that makes a difference.


btw.. I did dissolve about a teaspoon of salt into the water he is in now.
 
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I don't know. stupid LFS doesn't provide those, only the common names. but the person who made the remark about them being brackish gave me this link and that is what they look like. http://badmanstropicalfish.com/profiles/profile59.html

they are a softer yellow, not so bright if that makes a difference.


btw.. I did dissolve about a teaspoon of salt into the water he is in now.
These are indeed brackish water. My suggestion is you get another tank which will be brackish water for the gobies only as soon as possible. Many brackish water species tend to starve themselves to death when kept in the wrong water conditions. If you are not satisfied with them being the only tankmates, consider about 4 Chanda ranga, not to be confused with Chanda wolfii.

What salt are you using? Use marine salt, not aquarium salt. There is an article by Sploke in Brackish Water Discussion section which is a sticky posted by Niko (atnixon).

Edit: Never mind. Here it is.
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125699
 
*sighs* they have been eating though? :( I don't really have the room to have yet another tank set up. I will have to bring them back (though stupid lfs had them in fw too) I feel terrible. I just put some table salt in. I don't have anything else. I put it in more for the purpose of helping if he is sick, not making the water brackish. gar. that is what I get for buying fish without doing the proper research first.

thanks for your help.
 
*sighs* they have been eating though? :( I don't really have the room to have yet another tank set up. I will have to bring them back (though stupid lfs had them in fw too) I feel terrible. I just put some table salt in. I don't have anything else. I put it in more for the purpose of helping if he is sick, not making the water brackish. gar. that is what I get for buying fish without doing the proper research first.

thanks for your help.
That's really a shame.:( But I am glad of your decision to part with them especially when you may not be able to get another tank for them.:)

Try some Corydoras pygmaeus as alternatives.:)
 
I have cories now. Do you think that they (at least the healthy ones) could survive another week? I could get a small tank (5 gal or less) but I don't have any money for it now, but I could fit that on my desk so room wouldn't be an issue. 1 weeks time wouldn't be any more than they would continue to stay at the fish shop. would they be ok in a tank that small?

EDIT: nevermind the small setup.. too territorial
 
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I have cories now. Do you think that they (at least the healthy ones) could survive another week? I could get a small tank (5 gal or less) but I don't have any money for it now, but I could fit that on my desk so room wouldn't be an issue. 1 weeks time wouldn't be any more than they would continue to stay at the fish shop. would they be ok in a tank that small?
You did mention you have only one that does not eat, this one I would return immediately. If the rest are still doing well, you can give them another week and then get the tank.:) For a 5g, I'd stick only 3 in it and do watch your water parameters there carefully.
 
Just to be clear, you CAN keep bumblebee gobies in freshwater without harm. I've done so for years, as have many people.

Likely, they were just sick from the fish store.
 
Just to be clear, you CAN keep bumblebee gobies in freshwater without harm. I've done so for years, as have many people.

Likely, they were just sick from the fish store.

True, but as Lupin mentioned it depends on species, which unfortunately, LFS do not make available all that often.

Even the brackish ones COULD be housed in a fw tank, but their lives would be shortened.

"The Brachygobius xanthozona has perfect unbroken black stripes and is best suited for brackish, but will tolerate fresh water much better than the other type. The Brachygobius nunus has less well banded stripes, and occasionally black spots or broken stripes. It is not very tolerant of a fresh water environment. Technically its common name is the Golden Banded Goby, although I have not once seen these two species clearly distinguished when on sale in fish stores."



from http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/breeding/McKane_Bumblebee_Gobies.html



Only mentions two species but it is a couple years old so I guess another one was discovered or re-classified...:)
 
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