Hey Joe - study casting doubt on abduction "memories"

I've experienced sleep paralysis not just once.....but 3 times in my life.....it's a very scary experience !!!

I've likened it not to aliens.....but demons trying to take possession.....not for the faint of heart, believe me !!! :eek:

If anyone is interested in hearing about them......I'd share....(*shiver*)....to this day I do not believe them to be hulicinations !
 
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Raskolnikov said:
.... I get the impression sometimes that you've convinced yourself so thoroughly of your open-mindedness regarding alien abductions that the potential for the phenomenon to be explained in a fashion unrelated to extraterrestrials has become an impossibility to you.....
Sorry I come across so bluntly...
I read the article looking for the answer the "expert" supposedly has. And, in my openmindedness, he does not have an answer. I hope they don't pay this guy much. :D

Raskolnikov said:
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I thought that you could use someone to play a little devil's advocate ..
Again, sorry I may come across to sharp and direct. To me, the article proved nothing, but did evectively as propaganda on the side of "debunkers".

On this entire topic, the word "evidence" should not be thrown around so lightly...
 
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Emg said:
If anyone is interested in hearing about them......I'd share....(*shiver*)....to this day I do not believe them to be hulicinations !

I have never heard of this before :(...

Do you wake up aware and just can't move any parts of your body? That would scare the heck out of me :(.
 
Emg said:
Lol Joe...having problems with your clicky thing ??
YES --- :D

It's been abducted... Glad today is my Friday!
 
Emg said:
I've experienced sleep paralysis not just once.....but 3 times in my life.....it's a very scary experience !!!

I've likened it not to aliens.....but demons trying to take possession.....not for the faint of heart, believe me !!! :eek:...
Thanks for posting about that! That is scary!

My bet is, if I had 19 (like the expert in the article..), sleep paralysis subjects, none of them would tell of alien abductions. Now I need 18 more, unbiased subjects. :D

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Raskolnikov said:
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I'm not trying to say that alien abductions are completely concocted (whether conciously, subconciously, or both). ... Slamming the new views presented in that article outright because they disagree with a preconceived notion seems extraordinarily biased, though....
To me, the article 'slams' people who may have something exraordinary to offer the world. And, the experts should take a better look...

I happen to believe Travis Walton's story, and so did the lie detectors.

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I almost forgot to follow up on the "shark paranoia" ...
When relating to the article, during sleep paralyisis, shark phobia while sleeping should have been an issue due to the movie Jaws years ago. It makes no sense that sleep paralysis produces the alien abduction scenario. Debunker article, debunked.
 
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With the night terrors I never could remember what I was dreaming of or what I was afraid of. I had them on a regular basis for a long period of time as a child. I could be quite animated, talk, walk, even run. My eyes would be open but I would be asleep. If my parents tried to comfort me in this state I would struggle against them. Moving into adolescences I even swore at my father when he tried to wake me. Running around the house in a cold sweat, in absolute panic, eyes-wide open and spouting profanities - if my parents were superstitious they would have thought me possessed. Once awakened I could never remember what I was afraid of, only the numbness of pins and needles all over my body and particularly in my head. The only other thing was I seemed to recall something about trees, logs, and machinery but it was only the barest inkling and nothing I could ever make sense of. Perhaps in a past life I was a tree abducted by a logging company.
 
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DeVitaf said:
I have never heard of this before :(...

Do you wake up aware and just can't move any parts of your body? That would scare the heck out of me :(.


Oh yes....you wake up VERY aware that you are awake...you just can't move...at ALL !

The first time it happened I was about 15 and was tired so went to bed earlier than usual. For some reason I couldn't fall completely asleep and was sort of in a halfwake halfsleep faze....but then all of a sudden I was completely wide awake and just KNEW that something bad was happening....very scared ! but I couldn't move, couldn't even open my eyes....all I could think to do was start saying the Lord's Prayer.....as soon as I started to pray I had the sensation of laying on train tracks with a train roaring over me....it was a very loud roaring "whoooshing" sort of sound in my head and I felt like a giant vaccum cleaner was sucking something out of me. And then all of a sudden I was free and could move. I beat a hasty retreat downstairs just as fast as my legs would carry me.

The second time I was about 22 and was living in an old house. It was morning and I was alone in the house sleeping. While laying there I kept hearing footsteps but I knew that John had already left for work...but I couldn't get up to check it out..or even open my eyes. I'd drift off again and then wake up and not be able to move...kept hearing footsteps and then I got the sensation of being surrounded by "things"....and they were all hovering over me and I felt like an animal trapped in a cage...scared and angry at the same time..but I still couldn't get up or move. I don't remember how I got out of that one....but nasty experience !

The last time was about 10 years ago. Was sleeping on the couch when I went from being dead sound asleep to completely awake and alert...but I couldn't move ! I KNEW that there was an evil presence in the room with me, but this time there was no fear in me at all....because now I know the Lord... :) I lay there paralyzed and just declared Jesus my Lord and Savior and told it to go away....and it did.

I haven't been bothered since ! :D
 
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