Hot Dog fish food mix

well most discus people recommend using beefheart, but discus hans uses ground beef.

Since its not the sole ingredient, ti should be fine. I would try to balance the protein with some sale portions of whitefish (often you can get the "ends" of fillets for really cheap)
 
I guess the point is, why use hot dogs when there are so many other cheap things you could use? I disagree that bad stuff is not bad for you as long as you eat some good stuff along with it. If you want to eat 4 strips of bacon, putting the 4 strips of bacon in oatmeal doesn't make it healthier. It's only healthier if you ate less bacon than you would have because the oatmeal made you feel fuller. Nothing can really neutralize the fat and salt content of a food...fiber just fills you up. It doesn't cancel anything out.

I understand the convenience factor of the hot dogs (which can be cooked in the microwave and are neat and tidy) the fact that you give it to your cats (not sure that's a vet recommended practice, either) and that it's probably something you eat yourself. Not to mention the fish probably love it...anybody know if fat and salt make food more appealing to fish too? I wouldn't doubt it, especially the fat.

Convenience aside, there are just sooo many cheap cuts of meat, or seafood that you could use instead. At least consider balancing it out with something like whiting, as Rachel said. Tilapia fillets are also cheap and low in Thiaminase.

Fat, salt, sugar, flavor additives (oh believe me, they are in there...a hot dog made of only mixed meat and paprika would taste like crap, at least nothing like what you expect a hot dog to taste like) just have no place in fish food. At least not ornamental fish.

Of course, if you are planning on switching over to Tilapia for your own consumption, fattening them up with what you find tasty makes total sense.
 
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You cant compare apples to oranges. A fishes diet and metabolism are completely different than mammalian diets.

For what I bolded in your comment, thats not opinion at all. A tree is a tree, the sky is the sky. Its not even debatable.
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Your just misunderstanding me and in fact making the point that the abstinence or indulgence of any particular food is debatable only in so far as an obsession. Because its not the hot dog but the life style and everything else that makes up a diet that matters.

To say that these hot dogs are not fit for consumption is just nonsense. I have never heard of any community of people who suffer an acute disease from practicing hot dog eating as part of an already high risk life style.

Anyway its just a fish food recipe Im trying just like others I have tried in the past, and Ill be sure to followup with the results on how it works out. For now its a cheap form of meat protein and $1 a pound an worth a try. So far I can tell you I haven't seen my Oscars more satisfied. Ill update either way and will also post the recipe and what it looks like encase you want to make a batch. I think Ill call it Frankoatvegflake cubes or Oatsvegflake cubes a-la Franky .
 
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As a treat, I'm sure the food is fine. You're probably the only person I know of who doesn't just feed hot dogs whole, and I applaud you for that. Many people do feed them this way, a very poor practice.

I just hope someone doesn't read your recipe and think, "Oh wow, this is much cheaper than European Shrimp Mix, what with its expensive Spirulina powder and the cost of whole shrimp...I'll just make this instead" and use it as a staple diet for fish who will have a particularly hard time digesting it. Their poor judgment would not be your fault, of course, but just saying.
 
hotdogs sound like a good way to kill a fish. Make a compost pile and raise some worms if your on that tight of a budget. Or buy bulk fish food from places like Ken's. Good fish food can be really expensive, it can also be really cheap too if you know what you are doing. Ignore the petshop junk and buy real food. If you want it frozen buy talapia, cod, smelt or some other cheap frozen fish at the grocery store. If you want prepared stuff you can get 1.5lb of good fish food online for $20 or less. IDK how much oscars eat, but that should last a while.
 
Well Im planning on getting a license to raise Cichlid Tilapia for personal use to help make the hobby self supporting so Im looking at good low cost options for proteins I have heard about. There are other protein alternatives that fish farmers use I wont mention becasue of the stigma attached to them as pet food. You know meat loaf is similar to what Im making and it never hurt us as kids when times were tough. In fact as a meat alternative, meat loaf is pretty health way to get kids to eat their veggies, which is my promise for here. ;)
 
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Your just misunderstanding me and in fact making the point that the abstinence or indulgence of any particular food is debatable only in so far as an obsession. Because its not the hot dog but the life style and everything else that makes up a diet that matters.

To say that these hot dogs are not fit for consumption is just nonsense. I have never heard of any community of people who suffer an acute disease from practicing hot dog eating as part of an already high risk life style.
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I think you are the one misunderstanding me, since your response has nothing to do with what I posted. I never said anything about abstinence or indulgence. Seems you want to use big words to skate around the subject.

I responded that you cant compare a land based mammalian diet to a fish's diet. They just arent the same. The digestive tracts and the way they work is different. Now tell me how in the wild, fish would come across hot dogs even as a supplement to their natural diet? Or for that fact, how they would even come across those types of animal fats and proteins on a regular basis, not to mention all the other stuff they put in them. Not very often I would imagine. That would raise a red flag to me, which by the way would be the second red flag if you read my first post in this thread. Two wrongs dont make a right.

Lets not confuse social issues with the conversation at hand about feeding fish hot dogs. Maybe it will cut down on the expansive use of fancy words meant to sidetrack the reader. I dont think eating hot dogs is a lifestyle choice for ANY fish, just that of the keeper.
 
Wait till you add relish and mustard and maybe top it off with slaw and beans........those Os will be in 7th heaven.....provided they have the correct sized tank.
 
I believe creation made a way when there is opportunity. No one though a few gold fish tossed into the Colorado River and Great Lakes would ever survive but I can tell you that the ducks walk across their backs along the Colorado River banks where the tourist feed them chips, french fries, popcorn, and you guessed it Hot dogs with all the fixings. The Giant gold fish have developed such a symbiotic relationship with dockside tourism comfort food that you can actually pet and catch them by hand, and they are so adversely affected by comfort food that they reach 2Ft 15 pound. When someone figures how that one works against all odds, Ill try and answer why I think chicken, pork, and beef in the form of a hot dog will be beneficial as part of a larger fish food recipe. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmkYE6cb_qw&feature=related
 
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I think the rat poo and co ckroach feces in most hot dogs add a vitamin factor we are unaware of...
 
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