How many tetras do you need to school?

If there are fish you don't like then see if the store will take them back. 3 less tetras is a start. I would also suggest that you stick to one loach type and get more. The khulies will do fine in that temp of water as long as you are doing decent sized weekly changes. Loaches are schoolers as well and will be much more active fish if their group number is increased.

How big are the angels? When smaller they won't eat the neons but have the potential to as they age. Add places to hide such as live plants to minimize the chances of them being caught.

And not to pick on you but I assume the 4 mountain fish are actually White Cloud Mountain minnows? If so they to are a schooling fish and get far too large to live in a 3 gallon tank. Mine are easily 2 inches long and fast swimmers.
 
Schooling is a defense mechanism that fish use in the wild to avoid being eaten. The way to get them to school in a home aquarium is to make sure they are scared all the time. Do you want to do that to your fish?

My four neons get along great with the seven pink danios and other residents of the 30g. They split up and spread out through the tank......since they are not afraid.
 
No, no, they are not white clouds, i checked with my store and it does not have the white in their fins so it's not that. the guy just told me that they will all stay under an in. big. :huh:

what would you recomend loach wise?
stay with the yo yos or go with the kullis?
 
will tetra's school with differnt species of tetra or just with their own kind?
 
No, no, they are not white clouds, i checked with my store and it does not have the white in their fins so it's not that. the guy just told me that they will all stay under an in. big. :huh:

what would you recomend loach wise?
stay with the yo yos or go with the kullis?


White clouds have red fins and a pinkish-grey body with a irridescent white stripe along the length of their bodies.

I'd take back the lemons and the angels... perhaps even one of the two types of loaches. And I always suggest getting rid of Chinese Algae Eaters. Too aggressive when they get bigger. They'll attack your bottom feeders... maybe even the others, too, once it's big enough to be a bully!!

If you want an aggressor to make your neons school tighter, I'd say a trio of tiger barbs... but they'd probably clash too much with your cichlids. They're naughty little fin-munchers, those tiger barbs... Keeps fast fish on their toes, but long-fins beware!!! :P
 
i'm willing to take back the lemons, the CAE, and mabey some loaches but i can't part with my angels
 
Is it an SAE or CAE? SAE's are fine (do a quick google search to find the difference).

I woudl suggest the khulie loaches. They stay the smallest (very slim though 4 inches in length) so you would be able to max out a group of them better than the other loaches. Say get 5-6 total. The cory school is a fine size.

I think that you will find fewer fish choices in the tank will just end up looking better, less Noah's Ark.

As for the Angels and Rams, well there is a chance they can get aggressive if they are breeding pairs. Just something to watch for and potentially deal with in the future. Enjoy them now.
 
Overstocked??? WTF??? No way. Only by the standards of those who like to only have a few fish per aquarium, but that is by no means the 'correct' way to stock an aquarium.

Those are mostly very small fish (going by their adult sizes), aside from the angels, and the CAE's (I would get rid of those though).

Are your water params in good standing? Can all the fish swim without being forced to hit the sides of the aquarium? Then you're good.



When it comes to schooling, the bigger the tank, the more natural behavior you will see with schooling fish, more so than the number or presence of a semi agressive fish.
 
All I have in my tank are a few platy (5) and a few red eye tetra (5) ....no semi-aggressive or aggressive fish at all in the tank and my red eyes are schooling. I was going to give them away but I'm thinking I'll keep them, up the number, and they will be even cooler than they are now. Sometimes they break off into pairs or trios.
 
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