How to handle QT care after fish death need help

platytetrafan

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Hi on Monday I unfortunately had to put into QT a sick glo lite tetra hoping to save the fish but might have been too late. The fish was bloated & now it looks like it could have been something internal. I tried to save it by first adding aquarium salt to the water because I really was not sure what was making the fish sick. Tonight sadly the fish has gone to fish heaven & now I need to know what to do. Since this fish died I will have to replace it so that means putting the fish through QT but how to make sure the tank is safe to do so. Besides a good water change on the QT what else should I do? I am not even sure what the fish died from. An educated guess am thinking dropsy. Hate when this happens! Luckily the other fish in my main tank are ok doing fine but need some good advice to follow on how to make the QT safe for the next replacement just when I thought I was done restocking my main tank. Looks like am not. Any help appreciated!
 
I think like we talked about in other threads, typically you take your QT down when you don' t need it and start it back up on an as-needed basis with filtration/media out of one of your known established and healthy tanks.

Not knowing exactly what did the tetra in, I'd want to start a fresh QT if I was going thru that effort.
 
You know that these "glo fish" are artificially colored and often get sick and die early because of that? I don't recommend getting more, instead get the natural ones.
 
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If, by "dropsy" you mean fish TB, you need to take some more drastic actions IMO. I would tear down the tank completely, bleach it & then you need to wipe it down very thoroughly with rubbing alcohol after it dries. the bleach kills the surfaces but does NOT get into the biofilm layer to kill it all. Be very careful!

This is from a friend's research not my own but I will never feel safe using a QT after TB. I have a 20g long I will probably never use again after that or even give away. I threw out its filter & still may trash it's tank too. That is 1 disease that scares the heck out of me...do you have pics or more info on you fish? Luckily I only had this happen once in almost 40 years, but that's more than enough to worry me.
 
I think like we talked about in other threads, typically you take your QT down when you don' t need it and start it back up on an as-needed basis with filtration/media out of one of your known established and healthy tanks.

Not knowing exactly what did the tetra in, I'd want to start a fresh QT if I was going thru that effort.
Yes I remember our chat about that but the question I was asking about now relates to a fish that I had already put through QT for weeks in this existing tank & was fine in my main tank but then became sick & had to be put back into QT again but despite my efforts to save him he died & I don’t know what exactly he had he was bloated on both sides & had an ulcerated area on the right side. It wasn’t fungus or columnaris. The only other thing it could have been with those symptoms is dropsy. Possibly something internal or it could have been a tumor of some sort. My other glo tetras are fine & so are my other fish. I am annoyed about one thing though I wasn’t sure about this & specifically asked the guy at LFS years ago when I first started I didn’t know any better & bought what they called “painted tetras” then learned how they got their color. I was told glo tetras were different & genetically brought up to have the colors they do & were different then painted ones. So if they are the same I was basically lied to well that sucks! So far the others are doing fine. So to replace the one that died am thinking to get another bleeding heart tetra instead. My question is since this QT has been cycled & running for months to QT other fish that remained healthy to restock my main tank & this one tetra got sick was put back in QT & died is there a way to treat the tank after a good water change. I have aquarisol in the house & it can be used to treat & prevent parasites ich & velvet active ingredient is soluble copper salts my only other option is to just call it a day & not replace the glo tetra & break down the QT. For the most part my main tank is mostly stocked with all the fish I wanted & they all went through QT with no issues. I do have 6 bleeding hearts & 5 glo tetras that are doing fine
& my other fish too I just feel bad about losing the 6th glo tetra.
 
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If, by "dropsy" you mean fish TB, you need to take some more drastic actions IMO. I would tear down the tank completely, bleach it & then you need to wipe it down very thoroughly with rubbing alcohol after it dries. the bleach kills the surfaces but does NOT get into the biofilm layer to kill it all. Be very careful!

This is from a friend's research not my own but I will never feel safe using a QT after TB. I have a 20g long I will probably never use again after that or even give away. I threw out its filter & still may trash it's tank too. That is 1 disease that scares the heck out of me...do you have pics or more info on you fish? Luckily I only had this happen once in almost 40 years, but that's more than enough to worry me.
Hi I posted several pics of the fish on a previous thread in this forum because I had no idea what this was. Dropsy was just a guess I didn’t know what it definitely was the fish was not pineconed just bloated with an ulcerated area on the right side. The bloating actually went away after I added aquarium salt to the QT but the fish died last night sadly. I asked for opinions on what illness this could have been & took the fish out of the main tank & put it back in QT. Honestly I admit am not good at diagnosing fish illnesses. I had read about Dropsy if that’s what it was they say it’s not contagious didn’t call it TB but recommended QT the fish & adding salt to decrease the bloating.
 
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There is a difference between a glow fish, which is genetically altered to produce the effect and a glo-lite tetra which is a species, Hemigrammus erythrozonus.

Next, there are several things that would explain what happened to your fish. Dropsy is more of a description than a specific disease. However, there are several common causes of what you saw.

Constipation- This is one of the ore common causes and easiest to fix. the fish is simply not pooping because it is plugged up. if the fish is still eating then daphnia or a crushed pea can help. If its not eating some folks feel that epsom salt, not sodium chloride, it the best treatment. Epsom is basically magnesium. Not everybody agrees that Epson is helpful. but I have used it now and then with decent results. But it will make one's water harder and care needs to be taken to add it gradually as too large of a dose dose can do more harm than good.

Internal Parasites- These need to be treated with an anti-parasitic med. Parasites come in different kinds and different treatments can be needed. Note, here we are looking at internal parasites. This may help some, it is a link to the Merck Veterinary Manual's section on Parasitic Diseases of Fish Scroll down to the sections on Internal. A few of my other links have gone invalid or are down due to rewrites.

Bacterial Infections- These also will need treatment with meds- antibiotics. The constipation here is normally caused by an infection elsewhere causing swelling which presses on the digestive track which blocks it. These can be difficult to diagnose since the only symptom is the swelling of the fish which is often not enough on its own for an accurate diagnosis. Of course, the infection will sometimes be in the digestive system itself.

Genetic/Physical defects- There is pretty much no solution for this sort of thing, especially in such a tiny fish. But animals can have these sort of issues just like humans. The can also suffer heart attacks or strokes for example.

Where one treats a fish depends on the problem one is treating. Anything that is contagious or can spread requires a whole tank be medicated. Individual not contagious problems should be treated in an H tank. Anything one adds to the water alters it to some degree. This will usually cause some amount of stress in fish. More serious levels or prolongeed exposure results in a weakened immune systen and a lowered ability for a fish to ward of things it normally would.

Finally, for most of us in the hobby, dignosing fish ailments and treating properly is not simple nor easy. Ich is easy to spot and treaments are well known, but most issues are not this simple. I have been at this for 19 years and I am still pretty ignorant re diagnosis and treatment. I lack the education and equipment eeded to diagnose. Unfortunately, professional help is hard to find when it comes to treating a single tetra or anything else for that matter. Most vets do not work with ornamentals so you need a connection at a University which has a department which teaches this. Not so easy to find. And most of us lack the desire and/or time to get educated. A few years back an event (with a 40 year history) where I used to vend offered a seminar in fish disease diagnosis from a pro. They cancelled it because of lack of interest. I did sign up and was a bit disappointed.
 
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