how to keep a lion?

yamanjazz

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due to the loss of my powder tang(power failure:( ), i have no fish in my tank. i was thinking of starting over with a lion Fish. i have a couple of questions before i try it. Are Lions very hard to keep? Can i have mushrooms in the tank with a lion? and if so what other fish will live with a lion fish?

i have a 90gal tank will that be big enough for one lion fish on its own?

Thanks in advance:)
 
From the research i done before i got my fuzzy dwarf lion (which is now back at the shop) i can make the following conclusions

90G should be big enough for most lion fish. Voliton can get around 1' but according to fishindex.com should be ok in 70G

the most difficult thing with lionsfish is feeding them, specifically getting tghem to eat frozen food, I had to give in and take him back to the store as i was concerned fro his health.

I have seen some people describe lionfish as hardy, however they are messy eaters and messy at the other end so plenty of live rock is required.

Also they tend to eat things smaller than themselves

The above is just what i have read and i have very limited experiance, however there are lots of FAQ's on the internet regarding lionfish. Very good looking fish though
 
lions are easy to keep, and the ones that look the best are volitans and radiata. they look basically the same but the radiata is alot smaller. they basically only eat live foods, but eat about 1 platty every 4 days. you can keep anything with it that doesn't fit in its mouth! it eats all coral :( but you can always try. it may be better to get a friendly fish instead, but some cool fish you can keep with it are moon wrasses, foxfaces, triggers, and damsels if they are large enough.
 
lions are easy to keep, and the ones that look the best are volitans and radiata. they look basically the same but the radiata is alot smaller.

Wrong. Once they are eating well and acclimated, lions are fairly hardy, but that does not make them easy. Given the right setup and care, they are easy. Radiata get to 9 inches, not too much smaller. I would recommend them over a volitan, but both fish, given a large enough tank, are NOT the slow, passive fish most people will suggest. In a large tank, they are very active swimmers.

they basically only eat live foods, but eat about 1 platty every 4 days. you can keep anything with it that doesn't fit in its mouth! it eats all coral :( but you can always try.

Very wrong. Lions can be trained to take frozen and prepared foods, and every effort should be made to do so. Freshwater fish are NOT a good live food option, they have very different fats than marine animals need. Ghost shrimp are probably the most readily available, cheap option fo rlive foods, and will work to keep the lion going while you work on getting him to accept prepared foods. Lions do not eat coral at all. Ever. Devorative shrimp and crabs may be targeted, but snails, conchs, stars, and worms will be ignored completely. Lions typically are not added to reefs because they are high waste producers, and this complicates maintaining water conditions needed by corals. I kept a juvenile volitan in my reef until he was big enough to threaten the shrimp and fish, then moved him to a FO.

it may be better to get a friendly fish instead, but some cool fish you can keep with it are moon wrasses, foxfaces, triggers, and damsels if they are large enough.

Some wrasses will work, as will a foxface or tang (I'd go with a yellow or a scopas, and add it while the lion is still small). Triggers are not really a great companion--they tend to nip off fins during feeding, and some can just be nasty to the lions. Damsels--most will NEVER get big enough to be safe, and the ones that are aggressive enough to put up with a lion often pester the heck out of them. Bad choice. I'd go with either a tang (as above, the yellows, or a scopas would be fine in a 90), a butterfly, an eel (though they will go after crustaceans and of course you must secure the rock work very well--not great with a reef, but mushrooms should be fine), some of the larger wrasses, or, just let it be the only fish in there--much easier to maintain water quality.
 
LOl, amen O.G.! Except for the part about Damnsels and Lions ,"nobody take this serious by the way!!", the only way I would buy any damsels any time would be if I had a large predatory fish ready to greet them properly.
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plattys are brackish water fish, not fresh water fish, so i don't see how different the fat could be.
 
Indeed platies are freshwater fish. Mollies and to an extent guppies could be considered brackish. Mollies can live in full marine as well. If you raised them in saltwaer conditions mollies could be a safe source fo live food. But I would only use them if you raise them yourself or you are asking for trouble by bringing in diseases. A switch to prepared food is the best option as you get to control the nutrion of the food much better.
 
Not to mention over time your lion will see every new fish you put in the tank as a potential meal. That can be a real bad idea they aren't really all that bright and have been known to try to swallow things that are way too big.
 
Cheer guys:) great info. sorry i could not answer earlier, but i have been very busy lately, i got engaged on frinday :bday: . just one more question. are they dangerous? as in very poisonous. i dont wnat to get hurt. thanks again :cool:
 
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