How well do oscars and puffers do together?

graphicdesign_r said:
IF YOU ARE THAT MUCH OF A NEWBIE PLEASE READ ON "FISHTANK CYCLING" BEFORE YOU PUT ANY FISH IN YOUR TANK.

It seems you are already shopping and your tank has not arrived yet. You need to have that tank up and running for awhile before you put fish in.

Just to nip any premature stocking in the bud. If you buy expensive fish and use them to cycle you're wasting your money and hurting your fish.
I know how to get an aquarium ready. (I have one.) And I do the fishless cycle. I'm not shopping, I'm studying and trying to figure out what I really want. I didn't know anything about these painted glass fish until I looked them up on the internet. I learned a lesson from that. The 75 gallon tank will be ready before any fish are added. I'm just curious about the gps and the oscars.(Not even sure that's what I want.) I will learn everything I can before I buy any more fish. Just like my ghost shrimp. One has eggs and I'm trying to figure out what to do about that. I didn't realize that they would breed so easily. and right now the 20 gallon isn't ready yet. But I'll figure it out. Thanks for the advice!
 
Some of you are awful impatient and quick - tempered with some new people asking questions. Didn't we all start out by asking questions, some of them "seemingly" foolish? When you have the answers, the questions are easy. When you don't, you ask...............
 
jmattingly said:
Oscars need fresh water with high PH and hard water.
Actually, being native to The Amazon river basin area, they prefer soft acidic water. If you do them, dont stuff too many in the 75, I would do 2 max, some folks might go 3 with double filtration. Oscars are quite messy and do not do well in poor water quality, so frequent water changes are a must. Also, a varried and healty diet will keep these fish in stunning coloration.
 
Green Spotted Puffers need about 30Gallons per FISH. a 20 will not surfice. They get 6" or so and are very messy Fisheys. Very High Maintenance also, constant water changes, NO AMMONIA, NO NITRITES and very little nitrates. Also special diets consist of these fish, like snails as a main diet, you would probably need to breed them and have a seperate tank for that.
 
denali1234 said:
Some of you are awful impatient and quick - tempered with some new people asking questions. Didn't we all start out by asking questions, some of them "seemingly" foolish? When you have the answers, the questions are easy. When you don't, you ask...............

I figured by the nature of the question that the person asking had less experience (good to know that is not an issue after reading Mrs. B's last post, she just doesn't know about puffers, so here she is).

I would point out that it is better that someone starting up an aquarium who has questionable experience make sure they do things right from the beginning, otherwise they end up dissatisfied with a bunch of dead fish, and most likely leave the hobby.

I'd rather err on the side of caution and "shout" important info than see a post a few weeks from now about a bunch of dead puffers and realize I could have been more proactive and made a difference in the outcome. I've not posted before based on assumptions and then regretted it.

When a creature's life is at stake (or in question) I'll drop the lip service and tact in favor of direct, relevant, and correct information. I realize that this whole post is :OT: but I think your taking offense (even if not specifically to my post) here is completely off base. Different people share information in different ways, and I appreciate that.
 
I do appreciate that, but when YOU WRITE LIKE THIS YOU SEEM AS THOUGH YOU ARE YELLING. When people come here to solicit advice, you want to make sure that it is given in a way that they will accept it. Mrs Burns took the information in a positive way, good for her!! Other newbies may have felt stupid after that post and never came to this site again for information, and that would be sad indeed. I am glad you gave her important information that she would have needed if she HAD of been a newbie. I just wonder if the presentation could have been nicer. Some people do not know how to navigate this site for answers, they just find it and ask a question. Gently steering them to the answer is better than barking it out, and could result ( like it did for me ) in another responsible fish hobbyist. That is just my opinion, and everyone has one.
 
:OT: Not sweating the OT, since the question in the post has been answered...

denali1234 said:
That is just my opinion, and everyone has one.

That reminds me of the "Opinions are like..." line I always laugh at when I hear it. My opinion on couching advice in a flowery and gentle language is right under my ID.

Some call it tactlessness, but I prefer to think of it as honesty. Maybe it's just the pragmatism of my inner swamp yankee showing through...

I quit working in sales and customer service for a reason... I got sick of being polite all the time and kissing butt. :rolleyes:

Back on topic, is there truly NO species that dwarf puffers can be kept with? I know oscars are not suitable, but they must have some fish that are native to the same area that puffers would co-exist with no?
 
I would only keep puffers in a species only tank. I'm not saying it can't be done but due to the aggressive nature it's best for all the fish. Just like stated above the GSP's are brackish and gradually move to salt over the course of their life. There are FW puffers, I just bought one a couple days ago, mine is a Fahaka puffer, only problem with them is they grow big, fast.

Just remember if you do put any puffer in a tank with other fish you run the risk of having your other fish killed or badly injured by fin nipping.
 
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