i cant take the wait any longer

Katuuuz,

I know how you feel... (a little late to reply, but here it goes).. having a 46 bow in front of you and not being able to add fish, for over a month! I'm surprised you lasted that long! lol...

Anyway, hang in there, it seems like things are looking good (finally). We all make mistakes the first time around... Still, the fact that anyone lasted 21 pages on a fish site to try to figure out how to get a problem resolved in their tank shows that you've got the right mindset.

For the next time, throw in a dead shrimp... Easier, and no need to deal with unwanted fish in the tank...

Good luck, let us know how it turns out.

And lastly, please, no more negativety on the thread. Suggestions are always welcome, constructive criticism can be beneficial, so feel free to make your comments.. no need to color it with harsh words though...
 
I just want to say thanks to everyone for this thread, as I've learned a ton. I didn't know that stresscoat+ converted to ionized NH4. I've often wondered if using Amquel+ in a cycling tank defeated the purpose by getting rid of the Ammonia, so I'm thrilled to learn it doesn't.

Katuuz, congrats on hanging through this entire thread, continuing to do the right thing, and starting out informed and dedicated. You've got the makings of a great fishkeeper.
 
I encouraged Kat to post this question out there so that he would get lots of opinions & I'm glad he did.


He's a good guy :)
 
thank you cheech, wendamus, and mokomon - i'm really happy my bacteria are finally present - couldn't have happened if not for this site. i've tried keeping fish a handful of times in my 24 years and am happy to know this time around it's for good! i've had these tanks cycling longer than all my other tanks combined when i didn't know a cycle even needed to happen... buy a tank... buy some fake plants that were probably razor sharp, fill from the tap, (what the hell is dechlorinator?) and dump in (probably too many) fish. ... that right there tells you how much i didn't know in the past!
 
I'm happy for you!
 
shawnhu said:
I'm no chemist, but it's said to be basically the same stuff. Companies like API try to make the hobby "idiot-proof", at the same time, maximizing profits by selling redundant products. What I understand to happen is that chlorine is de-toxified by breaking the bond. Chloramines(if your water contains any) will produce ammonia as a bi-product of de-toxification. Ammonia is then further de-toxified by converting to NH4+

Hope that helps a bit.
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So then one could say if Stress Coat is used, then there wouldn't be a need to use API Tap Water Conditioner(or other) or API Ammo-Lock(or other remover/converter) because Stress Coat does pretty much the same job as the later two chems mentioned.....plus helps to keep fish healthy with its slime coating abilities(do they make a difference?)........Having said that, is it possible to be over-dosed on the Aloe Vera in Stress Coat? Would the environment be "over slimed"?

Being able to do the job of three chems with just one, Stress Caat, would make some big differences......both in cost and convenience.......
 
There's no need for the extra slime coat protection. A healthy fish will have a healthy slime coat. Its another marketing ploy...

All you really need is something to remove chlorine/chloramine. Also, you do not want anything that claims to remove ammonia, as that will starve your bacteria colony.
 
jpappy789 said:
I agree. But thing is if the tap had nitrates why weren't they showing before? Unless the OP has dramatically reduced the frequency of water changes...

Eh, I've had problems with both...my anacharis melted almost instantly and the hornwort became bare. I think it really depends. I've seen setups where both were used and the plants looked fine...hit-or-miss IMO.
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I didnt have nitrates at first either and then 2 days later they showed up. Hmmm very interesting
 
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