I Feel Bad But......

I've actually heard a few complaints about black skirts being "evil". Other people have used that exact same word to describe them.

As others have already told you, don't feel bad at all. You tried something new, it didn't work. You have to do what's best for your CURRENT inhabitants. I think your older fish should get priority over the newer ones. So you did the right thing.
 
star_rider said:
if you go with pristella tetras you might want to rethink the angel.
I wouldn't put an angel in a 20G tank anyway, but why wouldn't you put pristellas with an angel? I have an angel with mine and have yet to run into any problems.
 
i've had to take back mollies before because they were picking on my betta(he is scared of his own shadow)and i didnt feel bad.my friend has blackskirts in a community tank and they are very mellow,maby yours are just evil. :p:
 
joimartens,

it's hit or miss with angles and fish they can fit in their mouths.

I raise mostly angels..the pristella only gets to about 1.3" i had oto's that got to 1.5 " and the angels ate them.


I have some sunset kois that are large and not even 1 yr old yet..

my experience with angels this large(6" and growing ) lends me to wonder what you can keep with these ;)

I keep wild angels also.watching them eat is amazing..they attack the food..they hover and when they see the food..they strike with lightening speed.
I can't help but think how much of this trait is left in the domestic angels.

that being said..it is not impossible to raise pristella's with angels...but I have seen cardinal tetras consumed and oto's consumed..there is always the possiblity other fish will get consumed..afterall an angel is still a cichlid....as peaceflu as they can be..there is always the cichlid in them.


I agree a 20 gallon community tank is no place for an angel.

tho a pair can occupy a 20 tall. barebottom..breeding tank.
 
I see what you are saying. I know that they will eat anything they can fit into their mouths, I guess I assumed that a pristella is wide bodied enough not to be considered food. Of course my angel is still a juvie. Born in March. So I guess I will find out sooner or later ;)
 
Well, I did it. It's funny what someone said about serpaes b/c they were a bit evil too! So I returned the three Blackskirts and the 2 Serpaes I had and now my tank is lookin' pretty empty. :(
I WAS thinking of getting an angel and just read the posts and some of you think it's not a great idea. No good even if there's
1 dwarf gouramis, 4 panda corys, and 2 SAEs? That's too bad. LFS had quite a few that looked like they really needed to be rescued.
Thanks for all your guys' positive reinforcement by the way, I don't feel so bad now that I know I'm not the only one who experienced the satin fish
:shark:
 
Ya that happens alot i was at my LFS today and they had a tank with returned fish it had 4 HUGE! black skirt tetras in it is have never seen them that big! They must have been alot of trouble.
 
boofish,
the angels are probably juvenile(quarter sized or smaller) you could pull it for for a short time (read a couple months) but you would probably need to upgrade your tank.
a 25 is a good sized tank however, you could only pull off a pair of angels if it were only angels.
have you ever considered keyholes? or other dwarf acara?
 
Thanks for all the advice guys. I ended up getting two very small angels. After acclimating them, they have only been slightly harrassed by the Gouramis. They were not in the best shape after getting them home from LFS and are kind of huddled together. One has slightly reddish gills which makes me believe there is some ammonia burn. I did a 40% water change before putting them in and after what I thought was a slight display of flashing by one I treated the tank with some Aquari-Sol which I find to be a much gentler alternative to Quick Cure. The good news is that after the treatment, the two seemed to perk up and so I fed them and they both ate verociously -- good sign. One had to be coaxed out of a hiding spot but once it saw the food it was all over it. I hope everyone does okay. I'm watching the tank like a hawk and will continue to do daily water changes of about 30% as well as continue the Aquaria-sol for a few more days. I am looking in to a bigger tank, but for now I'm just trying to keep everyone alive. Any other suggestions? FYI water perameters are:
ammonia - 0
nitrate - 0
nitrite - >5
temp - 80
ph - 6.5
pjs - blue with little clouds on them.
 
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