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I will be moving out of my parents house into a group home setting in a few years ( I have high functioning Autism among other disabilites) and I currently have 15 fire belly toads in a part land part water planted 125 gallon downstairs, they have, now that its spring been breeding like crazy. I'm overrun with tads of all sizes and today they were calling and probably laying more eggs. I tried netting out the first batch of tads into a 10 gallon to protect them from the parents, just set up along with a heater,filter ect. and ALL of the tads died overnight or the next day, So now I leave the babies in with the parents, whom I keep well fed in case they may want to eat the babies
:lipssealedsmilie: Is there such a thing as Spaying/neutering exotics (Firebelly toads) like you do dogs and cats? Or should I get rid of the parents, I don't want to take them to a pet store as some of them were rescues from such awful places, Miss Young my old special ed Tacher said she would love to have them for her classroom, she's had Firebellys before but unlike mine they never bred.. Otherwise do you now of any Toad rescues in St paul MN?
 
Why not just cull (Euthanize) the eggs or tadpoles? When you find eggs, go put a bowl of water in the freezer and wait until the ice just starts to form on top and when it does, plop the eggs and tadpoles in. Almost instant death. This way you won't be overrun with tadpoles and eventually frogs.
 
I would vote for selling them to your LFS... if they are breeding that much, you have great conditions for them. You can offer your teacher some of the tadpoles, and sell some to several LFS for extra cash or trade-in values. I've never heard of anyone having such prolific Firebellies before, you should consider yourself lucky and in a very good position.
 
To the one who subjested killing them, no if Possible I don't wish to. I know their tank isn't "the wild" but I'm against it if at all possible.:mad2:

Thank you, do try to maintain all my pets the best I can,( I have two cats on a raw diet and Innova EVO) the toads are way cool and sometime I will post pictures, I may decide to keep them if I can stop the breeding. Can you Spay/neuter Fire bellies?. I have posted on an African clawed frog lab website, surely they must use some sort of birth control with the lab frogs and African clawed frogs were once used widely in pregnancy testing as I'm sure labs had to do something with controlling them. :confused:

Any buddy want fire bellies? I wont net the tads but if there's another better way of moving them I'd be happy to do it. If you wish I will post my Email Adress so you can contact me.
 
no need to post your email addy, members can use our PM feature if they want to contact you. I am sure you will get some PMs...

as far as birth control for the toads, there's nothing like that that I am aware of...
 
Can you place some sort of tank divider to keep the males and females separate to prevent future reproduction? I do not think you will find a way to neuter your frogs without undue risk to them. Surgery on such small animals is far more risky than it is on dogs or cats, and few veterinary surgeons are accustomed to dealing with frogs.

I doubt that methods for neutering Xenopus laevis were ever used. California now has naturalized populations of X. laevis due to medical labs dumping excess frogs in local waters. These have been implicated in the spread of chytrid fungus to North America.

As far as capturing tadpoles without netting them goes, it is easy enough: use a bottle trap. If you are not familiar with this trap, it is constructed from a plastic bottle, cut roughly in half (cut closer to top than bottom) with the top inverted and inserted into the bottom. Place some algae wafers or other tadpole food in the bottle and sink it in the tank, then check it now and again for tadpoles which have entered it. This way, you can easily transfer the tadpoles to a bag or other container without taking them out of the water.
 
Okay, thanks, Yeah the African clawed frog people had no idea either, but it was worth a try wasn't it?.... I will change the water today and stuff, I think the best option is to give the parents/ to my Teacher and rear the babies if possible. When they become toadlets I can give them to People on here who know and love Fire bellies.I think they are great little toads, I think animals having babies is very fun and rewarding but if at all possible it should be prevented. On the other hand is the firebelly toad rare in its native habatat?. Maybe I could contact some overseas wildlife center or people that restock endangered species, prehaps they could be realeased back into their native land. South East Asia, I believe it could be unrealistic however nobel minded it is.
 
I think I may have european firebellies as they look darker and a little bigger than the reg type, I don't know, Some are dark some are green. I do know they are FAT,I've been feeding them quite well on crickets, spiders, worms and whatever else I can find in the gardens around here. I have some family in europe( the language barrier is a biggie) If I can tell they are indeed europeans could I send them to them for release, I KNOW this type of bomba is highly endangered in its native habatat. Perhaps it is best to return them to their native ranges if at all possible that way they can help restore wild nature and help their kind. I know None of the bomba types are native to my area and would NEVER dream of releasing them here, only where they are native and only if possible. I'm well aware of the horrors of invasive's

Just an idea.
 
Whatever type I have is this possible, if legal matters are met? Can the two species create hybrid young together? If so then this blows this idea totally out of the water, as hybrids could harm the local native pure strains, and cause undo harm.
 
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